Posted on 01/26/2006 1:47:10 PM PST by jennyp
Okaaay.
So only some, if any, of the laws of physics or chemistry existed pre-Noah.
That is stranger than I can deal with. Done for tonight.
Me too!
I don't know HOW He did it, but I think it's so.
Why should Moses Lie???
I don't know why the believers don't leave smokey backroom to the Atheist and Evos to eat each other!
and they are off the main land threads maybe let Jim Rob keep them in here!
Should you have a thread relegated here stay on the topics of your threads and try not to be tempted to rump with the depths of hell!
These fools are always going to be outrages they get their kicks that way!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1566570/posts?page=16#16
Now you did quote what I said accurately but I do not see in what you wrote that you understand the context of the remark.
This was not a doctrinal remark but it was a remark as to evolution because if I tag on 7 24 hour "yoms: and that is the word for day in hebrew or if I tag on 7000 years as Yoms --(For David Propphesied that a Yom with the Lord is as a thousand Years and who in scripture of men had Yoms with the Lord Adam.) the discussion with carbon dating as to evolution or with the proponants of the gap theory would not be altered on iota for either interpretation would not produce the millions and billions of years that both groups need for all their stuff to take place.
If I did not make it clear in this post rhere is one previous that I state that I am not a fan of the Gap theory in its various flavors and I state why and show it is refuted with a single verse
I do not think that the world is billions of years old. I do not think the world is hundreds of millions of years old, I think that in the garden in particular that scripture is saying that this naming process took some tim e and that in the garden sin and corruption were not so the flower of Adam's youth did not fade or wither -- aging is corruption I further believe from the text that the age of Adam and Eve did not begin until their sin and expulsion
But regardless of that this is no way allows for all the time for evolution to occur.
I further argued in these two posts that in the bible the word of God is rather specific that God created the individual animals and plants all after their own kind in other words each creature was unique. And created thusly -- that is not evolution or the Gap theory. When I grew up I started out as a Lutheran and they were cool with evolution and espoused a theory that the world was more or less this huge clock that God would up at creation and then let it go. -- this theology a experiance based one
for people that do not hear from God, in their walk they can not touch God, God no longer heals, God no longer delivers, all they have is a book -- and it is not very understandable for them either -- so in the words of elijah the prophet: "Maybe their God is away on a journey, or maybe their God is sleeping." So to explain this emptiness and absence of God these people need props to hold up their hollow beleifs. Over the course of time I have been in many church service of different denominations Catholic, Methodist, Baptist (various flavors)Church of the brethren, house meetings, non-denominational non-denominational churches, charismatic and pentecostal (assorted flavors)and even a jewish synagogue (That was eye opening) bible collage and I even pastored some.
I mention that to say I have heard a great many variations of in teachings and doctrine but it can still be divided into certain groups or camps Literalist -- tend to be from non-denominational churches or house meetings -- Gap theory proponants tend to be fundamentalists or pentecostals -- there are entire baptist denominations that stand by that doctrine and many pastors preach it - why becasue they fear evolution as much as mormonism and they fear all their young children who play with dinosaurs and watch movies will fall away. I repeat my statement about the Lutherans conderning these people -- they sand in a place of spiritual lack and they are fighting to hold together their base of beleivers in religions in which they teach that people can not hear from God for themselves, that in theri walks they can not touch God, G0od no longer heals, God no longer delivers, all they have is a book -- and it is not very understandable for them either ether because their teachers in general draw lines through large portions of scripture that they say are either not for today or not for Christians
I have fellowshipped these people and only after decades have I come to any understanding of why things are the way they are in the church, and why people beleive what they beleive.
I'm sorry I am going to have to end this here -- I have a problem I have to deal with (a Kid and not my own.)
Send me the defination and search for the other post to get a larger view and then we can talk later if you desire,
I can't remember how many times I've seen (not recently, though), a cartoon of a bull on a toilet, or Darwin's head on a monkey's body, or... from the CRIDer side.
There was even one DUmmy who posted a pic of President Bush kicking Charles Darwin!
Well, what do you expect? They couldn't come to a clear conclusion because Piltdown Man was real! The idea that Piltdown Man was a fake was the real hoax.
Piltdown Man was no "missing link". Piltdown Man was just a post-flood human, who if you dressed him up & put him on the street nobody'd notice anything wrong with him. So maybe he had a big jaw. So did Fred Gwynne!
Ah, but Piltdown Man didn't fit into the evolutionists' fictional storyline they were building at the time. The bones of Piltdown Man were there for all to see, so the only thing the evolutionists could do was to try to smear Piltdown Man as a hoax.
It took them almost 40 years to accomplish the Big Lie, but finally in 1953 someone came up with the scientific-sounding "fluorine absorption test", and presto-chango, Piltdown Man was "proved" to be a hoax.
Yeah right! The fluorine absorption test is based on uniformatarian, evolutionary presuppositions. Exactly like all the other flawed radiocarbonic dating methods. Just ask the mollusk that was dated at 40 million years old by those silly evolutionist & then squirted them in the eye!
But radiometrical dating is sooooo modern, soooo scientific, that the public bought the hoax. And so today, even good creationists like yourself have totally bought into the evolutionists' BIG LIE. Even you think Piltdown Man was a hoax, when he should have been the smoking gun that killed off godless evolution for good!
Piltdown Man proves that the evolutionist's story of monkeys walking upright, and their small brains staying small until right up until the end, is bogus. Piltdown Man proclaims the glory of God!
Please don't let yourself get hoaxed by these lying evolutionist. Piltdown Man is real!!!
You're getting good. : )
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I don't think Moses lied, I think you misunderstand.
Describing A does not mean the absence of B.
Saying, for instance, that I had bacon for breakfast does not mean that I did not also have eggs.
I have never dismissed "The Christians" as "pie-eyed, knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers" so the rest of your post has no application. Indeed a significant majority of those who post in favour of the TOE on FR are Christians, so you are just setting up the usual fallacy of false dichotomy that creationists love so.
OTOH those who reject clear physical evidence, and argue almost entirely from the perceived (and unevidenced) social consequences were evolution to be true aren't behaving so as to gain any respect from me, or anyone else who is interested in reality rather than emotion. You just want affirmative action for your beliefs, because they make you feel comfortable.
No it isn't. Science is a method of acquiring knowledge about the world, that assumes that supernatural intervention doesn't occur, and that the universe behaves predictably. Using these assumptions human knowledge has increased exponentially over the last 350 years.
Knowledge does not equal wisdom.
I've already pointed out that your posts make quite clear that you have acquired neither knowledge nor wisdom thus far during your stay on earth. No knowledge of how science works, and not the wisdom to remain silent in your ignorance. Abe Lincoln said something about this, that you'd do well to take note of.
Before you spew untrue facts you should look up the words and understand there [sic] meaning.
Unintentionally hilarious, to be lecturing me about meaning, while making a grade-school grammatical error. Please point out an "untrue fact" that I have "spewed", if you can. In the meantime please stop telling lies about evolution, about which you quite clearly know nothing.
From your keyboard to the admin's eyes--how I wish there was an evo-chat section, so silly Rand Rants about "the fundies" could find a home of their own.
Oh, such wit.
Beware the Common Scold!
I don't intend to. Comedy of that class deserves the widest possible audience.
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