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To: MillerCreek

Let's see...you alleged that I "lied" when you alleged falsely that I'd "said" that "AIDS originated from homosexuals" (and you claimed the CDC "disagreed with [me], too"!)...


Which is YOU "lying," by the way, but most people, being reasonable, will allow confusions by whomever to pass by with a friendly correction, apology, perhaps additional information.


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Wrong. The only time I said you lied was when you claimed I was the one who introduced the word natural to the discussion. And you did say that
"HIV originated in persons engaged in homosexual activity".
I posted the link to that post of your and quoted you.


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Then you claimed, as you reiterate now, this latest comment of yours, that I "lied" when I "said (you) introduced the topic of natural in regard to homosexuality" -- in my experience, you were the first to introduce it in the context that I cited and when and how.

That's not disproven. Thus, you have, in fact, lied.

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Yes it was disproven. I posted a link to the post that I replied to which was the first I saw to mention naturalness of sexuality.

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In my experience, having not encountered in my area of discussions on this thread prior to your statements, anyone referring to homosexuality as "natural," you were he/she who introduced the term and thus, I wrote alll about that, quite a while ago.

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I didnt refer to it as natural. I asked if someone else would call it natural.

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What I've concluded is that you're slumming and trolling. You're just wearing out the thread that was, originally, worthwhile, for whatever motivations but the result is destructive, and you've engaged in harassing the very worth and contributions of others, in my experience, and many, many times over again.

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All I ask for is ONE piece of evidence that HIV "originated in persons engaged in homosexual activities"
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373 posted on 01/19/2006 12:20:36 PM PST by TheWormster
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To: TheWormster

You can find what you can find, learn what you can learn. Just like everyone else.

You've used your rhetorical, culturally positioned "questions" to introduce and mislead, in addition to making insulting, unsupportable allegations about others.

If you're in such pain about finding information, go and find it. You've disregarded everything that's been written here that otherwise would inform you, and instead are posing questions you don't require answers to so much as you seem to be enjoying a platform to pose your "questions."

If medical science can and has recognized for a while now that there's increased occurence of the virus that causes AIDS among male homosexuals, then you might give it a try and accept it. Or don't, but it's no one else's responsibility to respond to your cuckoo demands to be fed.


378 posted on 01/19/2006 1:56:08 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: TheWormster

How about this: PROVE TO US that there is not a greater occurence of the virus that causes AIDS among male homosexuals, in comparison with that rate of frequency among heterosexuals.

In fact, that question has been posed to you many times over in this thread, and you've -- to use your own language -- you've REFUSED to RESPOND to it.

So, how about it? Prove to us that your position is tenuable, actual, proven. Prove to us that there is, as you allege, "more AIDS" among heterosexuals than among homosexuals. By percentages, not by overall population numbers, given that homosexuals are a mere two, three percent of the overall human population.

In ANY country, as in, the human species, with reference to or not any nation, since that's also an issue you've raised ("America" and all).

Last thing here is that I've posted many times that you've been identified as engaging in falsehoods. Since I have no way of knowing what your intentions are to any point of fact, I can't describe you as "lying" (which is a statement about intentions) but I can describe you as having posted INACCURATE AND MISLEADING statements and many times over here, including misrepresenting actual information and the statements of others.

However, since you do not know me, either, there is no way possible you can know what my intentions are, here, anywhere else, and thus, you continuing to call me "a liar" and write that I am "lying" is just more of YOU deceiving, authoring inaccuracies and untruths.

More reason to feel very sorry for your unpleasant perspectives. I have no idea why you are motivated to denigrate others in defense of, apparently, homosexual behaviors.

The thread, by the way, isn't about that. It's about the fact that no gene has ever been identified that would substantiate any immutable characteristic to homosexuality, and that, therefore, homosexuality remains behavioral.

There was never any question or issue raised by the thread article to or about the virus that causes AIDS nor the rate of transmission, until you wrote that there was a greater rate of AIDS among heterosexuals than among homosexuals. Which is completely false, by the way, and remains unsubstantiated by you, as by anyone else.


379 posted on 01/19/2006 2:06:13 PM PST by MillerCreek
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