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It's a long article, but this absolutely destroys every argument the homosexual agenda pushers are using.
1 posted on 01/14/2006 4:14:15 PM PST by wagglebee
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BTTT.........thanks for the post, wagglebee. IMO, the increase in homosexuality (understatement) is more related to popularization and acceptance rather than genetics.


127 posted on 01/14/2006 10:42:31 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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The bottom line that no one seems to have the temerity to address is the simple fact that some people want to have sex and don't care how they get it as long as they get it. Sex is the driving issue; but, emotional issues are the baited hook that bring many into homosexual activities. Their behaviors are not dissimilar in the long run to those of addicts of any other stripe. And emotion drives them - not lucid thinking.

I was sitting with Yahoo instant Messenger running one night not long ago and was treated to an interesting exchange. A man asked me to be open minded enough to "experiment". Shocked and sickened, I responded by saying "Why must I be open minded if it's genetic?" The response I got back was pure invective and mostly aimed at Christianity. When I noted I'd invoked nothing Christian and merely posed a simple question having nothing to do with religion, the person changed to a more apologetic stance momentarily, then went back to invective as things progressed. Ultimately, the person could not defend his position and I wasn't about to be "open minded".


143 posted on 01/15/2006 1:35:01 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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read later


147 posted on 01/15/2006 3:38:31 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: wagglebee

Homosexual agenda ping.


148 posted on 01/15/2006 4:05:11 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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Bump and HA ping.

Thanks for posting this article. It's been in the database for years without a backup copy on FR.

155 posted on 01/15/2006 7:45:30 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To read later.


156 posted on 01/15/2006 7:47:01 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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save


162 posted on 01/15/2006 8:20:49 AM PST by krunkygirl
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I think it's both.

I've seen all the factors that contribute.

Coddling mommies...guess we'll have more homosexuals in the future..lol

Distant dads....don't know how the new wave of Birkie wearing papoose carrying babysitting soft and kissy daddies will affect that nurture factor.

But...and I know my fellow culture war travelers won't like this.....I think some guys are born queer. I can see the feminine sissiness in babies right as they learn to toddle and the interaction and all. Very very early...just doesn't seem time for the nuture aspect to have taken hold. (4 children)

Female homosexuality is another thing....aside from dykes that drives Dodge Ram Duallys, most female homosexuals are definitely nurtured....it is a refuge by choice. Many come from negative male relationships or they think it's cool to play with another girl.

Straight men would never have sex with another man cause it's cool (it's not). They do it cause they want it...and some wish they were women.


163 posted on 01/15/2006 8:23:11 AM PST by wardaddy (Alito is Clapton)
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I've been writing these very same -- albeit generalized compared with all this specific study information -- for a while now on the internet and routinely am dismissed as (name a pejorative here).

However, having studied biological sciences at a highly competitive university program, and at a highly liberal university at that, it's taught within the study of biology itself that there is no genetic, and/or biological substantiation that substantiates that homosexuality is immutable (that "they're born that way" as many homosexual activists insist).

Unfortunately, lesser universities, colleges, fail to instruct biology accurately as the science they claim they are dedicated to when compared with personal dogma, and instead instruct countless numbers of people that homosexuality IS immutable (that it's a condition that people are "born with", that they are otherwise predetermined by their sheer biology to be "homosexual" and that homosexuality does not represent a behavior or set of behaviors, which is not substantiated by science as this thread here explains).

It's shocking how many people possess a grade school introductory level understanding of biology and insist, as they are taught by sociologists and ideologues, that homosexuality is immutable, but from the nuttiness I read every single day on the internet about this issue, many people accept as fact that which is mere fancy, and, the homosexual activism of today pivots upon the very wrong assumption that homosexuality is immutable.

I've often also written that if homosexuality is presented, instead, as a form of mental (as in, behavioral, choice, some manifest behavior that exists due to other conditions that are not immutable) aberration from the normal (which to my view, it is, and to the view of biology, it is also), then they'd have a more realistic case for "acceptance" (homosexuality as behavioral aberration from the norm, the average).

And yet, by the mere fact that so many homosexuals and transsexual persons are so determined that they DO manifest an immutable chracteristic, when it is not substantiated by science that they do, it emphasises to ME that they are mentally aberrant.


169 posted on 01/15/2006 8:48:46 AM PST by MillerCreek
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To: wagglebee

Does it really matter?

Two gay people have sex with one another. Frankly, why is it anyone else's business. If they rape people, then it is your business. If they abuse children, it is our business. But that is equally true of straight folk as well.
If they want to have a parade, then as long as they get the necessary permits, then let them parade. If they want to make and watch films about themselves, then let them make and watch films. Nobody forces anyone into the cinema, do they?

There are lots of things in this world that people dont particularly like, but most of them are simply none of our business. Live and let live. Thats my motto.


170 posted on 01/15/2006 8:55:56 AM PST by TheWormster
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The true cause of homosexuality is Prada shoes. In a study of 1000 men who wear Prada shoes, 98.5% of men were homosexuals, the other 1.5% were homosexual-wannabes otherwise know as metrosexuals.


186 posted on 01/15/2006 9:18:42 AM PST by Always Right
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I knew identical twins.

She was: She wasn't.

194 posted on 01/15/2006 9:39:39 AM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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OR


275 posted on 01/16/2006 7:19:13 AM PST by doug from upland (NEW YORK TIMES -- traitorous b*st*rds)
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Extremely shy and artistic young boys, for instance, who are not affirmed in their masculinity by a caring father, might be at risk for homosexuality. It's not because of a homosexual "gene," but because of an interrupted process of achieving secure gender identity. This can make some boys who crave male affirmation an easy mark for seduction into homosexuality. A similar pattern can be seen in girls who don't fit classic gender profiles, need feminine affirmation, and are targeted by lesbians who play upon the girls' emotional needs.

Bears repeating. Thanks for this find, bookmarking. Some time ago, when I was studying psychology, this kind of research was the norm and the dispelling of these was just gaining steam, by the 'new' gay agenda. Now? Research still bearing out, for the most part, what we knew all along? Shocker.

321 posted on 01/19/2006 10:01:18 AM PST by fortunecookie
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All THAT to prove that queer is queer..
Even kids know queer is queer.. no fooling them..
They know when something "ain't right"..

Its just that some kids like being queer.. go out of their way to be queer, especially males.. and want to appear strange.. i.e. dinosaurs, monsters..

334 posted on 01/19/2006 10:33:05 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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Thanks for posting this. I hope it gets wide distribution.


335 posted on 01/19/2006 10:34:15 AM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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An invaluable resource, thanks for posting. Bookmark bump!


337 posted on 01/19/2006 10:41:42 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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Bump, defeats all homosexual activist arguments.

If anything it entirely discredits the entire homosexual rights movement. (BTW this "born" thing is very much a product of the USA homoadvocates. Abroad, it is regarded as a behavior)


356 posted on 01/19/2006 11:30:24 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Very nicely done. Thanks for posting this.


362 posted on 01/19/2006 11:40:52 AM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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I just noticed that this is posted in the "Smoky Backroom" and the topic is listed as "Heated Discussion"? Since the posted article and referenced studies simply confirm that no genetic basis for the homosexual disorder has been proven despite the propaganda suggesting it -what is the heated discussion?

Am I right to assume that the thread was reclassified?

It would appear unless I am missing something that moderators are allowing liberal activists a platform to promote their homosexual agenda propaganda on FR despite this:

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376 posted on 01/19/2006 1:44:07 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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