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I think you'd better look at this PA judge for an example of who sounds like a liberal.

Is he, by chance, an ACLU member? I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me. He certainly shares their hostility to anything reflecting a reverence for God.


14 posted on 12/25/2005 2:03:46 PM PST by ovrtaxt (I looked for common sense with a telescope. All I could see was the moon of Uranus.)
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To: ovrtaxt
I think you'd better look at this PA judge for an example of who sounds like a liberal. Is he, by chance, an ACLU member? I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me. He certainly shares their hostility to anything reflecting a reverence for God.

Now see, that's what happens when you jump to conclusions without bothering to learn anything about your subject first.

The judge in the Dover case was appointed by President George W. Bush, is not a liberal, and his 139-page decision shows no hostility towards religion. In the decision, he also mentions that the decision will probably be attacked by some as being a case of "judicial activism", but he explains that his court is "manifestly" not an activist one (i.e., he does not believe in judicial activism), and he explains why this decision is not a case of activism, and is in fact the opposite.

Finally, several of the plaintiffs in the case, as well as the chief expert witness for the prosecution on the subject of evolutionary biology (Kenneth R. Miller) are themselves devout Christians.

So this case cannot be easily dismissed as "godless liberals against religion", nor should it. The judge's decision is based on the expert testimony and evidence presented by both sides, and from my reading of it, it was the correct decision based on the facts and the Constitution.

20 posted on 12/25/2005 2:13:49 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: ovrtaxt

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22 posted on 12/25/2005 2:16:25 PM PST by Lurker 50001
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To: ovrtaxt
Is he, by chance, an ACLU member? I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me. He certainly shares their hostility to anything reflecting a reverence for God.

Long-standing member of the GOP and a devout Lutheran. Not an ACLU member. Impugn the motives of the judge all you want. Maybe you ought to consider the bearing false witness that occurred as the ID folks testified that religion had nothing to do with their efforts.

31 posted on 12/25/2005 2:51:25 PM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: ovrtaxt

"I think you'd better look at this PA judge for an example of who sounds like a liberal. Is he, by chance, an ACLU member? I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me. He certainly shares their hostility to anything reflecting a reverence for God."

LOL....he is a Pres. Bush 43 appointee who is very respected in the Pennsylvania GOP.


34 posted on 12/25/2005 2:56:51 PM PST by indcons (FReepmail indcons to get on/off the Military History ping list)
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To: ovrtaxt
Is he, by chance, an ACLU member? I have no idea, but it wouldn't surprise me. He certainly shares their hostility to anything reflecting a reverence for God.

Judge Jones is not a member of the ACLU, and is, in fact, a GWB appointee.

37 posted on 12/25/2005 3:09:34 PM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: ovrtaxt
I have no idea

And yet, you felt compelled to post.

62 posted on 12/25/2005 4:13:50 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (so natural to mankind is intolerance in whatever they really care about - J S Mill)
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