Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

To: js1138

I actually think evolution is highly credible as science.

I am quite displeased with how ID scientists are treated.

Notice you now thoughfully refute my evidence on primates.

Earlier though, I was "in a parallel universe," because you dismissed out of hand the possibility of its existence.

This is how evolution proponents argue. It is wrong. And it does more to discredit evolution than any gap in the so called record.


1,511 posted on 12/20/2005 6:48:41 PM PST by lonestar67
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1491 | View Replies ]


To: lonestar67

The article you linked is OK, but your use of the word "considerable" and the implication that there is some startling new problem for evolution is nonsense.

What is interesting is that the coding reagions of DNA are mor similar than the non-coding. This is what you would expect if variation is subject to selection.


1,519 posted on 12/20/2005 6:55:45 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1511 | View Replies ]

To: lonestar67
This is how evolution proponents argue. It is wrong. And it does more to discredit evolution than any gap in the so called record.

I have said many times that the best case against this cult (and it is a cult mentality IMO) is to come here and see the products of its ideology in action.

Unfortunately for me, there have been a few that say I'm no better than they are. I don't agree with them on that, but I can see how they might believe that true based on my 'fur-balls' with them

Wolf
1,523 posted on 12/20/2005 6:59:53 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1511 | View Replies ]

To: lonestar67; js1138
Notice you now thoughfully refute my evidence on primates.

Earlier though, I was "in a parallel universe," because you dismissed out of hand the possibility of its existence.

Ahem -- do not be disingenuous. He did not suggest that *you* were "in a parallel universe" (actually he said "alternate", but no matter), he suggested that your alleged evidence must be from an alternate universe, for the very good reason that no evidence OF THE KIND YOU DESCRIBED is known. So if you had some, it must have been beamed in from some reality other than the current one.

And note that he wasn't taking issue with your claim that "considerable genetic differentiation between humans and other primates have been found". That would be an unamazing finding. However, you didn't stop there. You claimed that, "It has been found to such an extent that the smooth evolution theories have been problematized."

*THAT* is the claim which richly earned you an, "oh yeah?" attitude in response, because a) if such a finding had actually been found, it would already be very big news, impossible to miss by anyone who follows science news, and b) those of us who have been following the chimp/human genome projects *know* that the detailed analysis of the genetic differences between the species has not turned up any findings of the sort you describe.

So in short, we knew that you were making a claim you couldn't support, or vastly exaggerating something you did have.

Thus, the response you got. EVEN SO, you'll note that he was openminded enough to ask to see what you had anyway.

So again, you might want to drop the drama queen stuff, like when you use this minor example of eye-rolling as if it's some kind of keelhauling, and justifies comments of yours like:

This is how evolution proponents argue. It is wrong. And it does more to discredit evolution than any gap in the so called record.

Uh huh. Sure. You get treated with humorous skepticism for making an overblown claim we know is false, and suddenly it "discredits evolution" and is "wrong" and is "how evolution proponents argue".

Sheesh.

1,592 posted on 12/20/2005 7:40:25 PM PST by Ichneumon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1511 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson