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To: Havoc; Dimensio; b_sharp
[List the citations.]

Seeing as you guys are such experts on the subject, list them yourself..

Your inability to support your own claim is duly noted.

or are you yet another who stands on the street throwing dirt at something he hasn't even bothered see for himself - another armchair superior intellect sitting above it all scoffing from ignorance..

Your attempt to fling dung in a lame and transparent attempt to divert attention from the fact that you have run away from a request that you support your claim is duly noted.

The videos are free. Please tell us you have a clue.

Whether they're free or not, I'm not about to spend valuable time and energy doing YOUR homework for you.

Back when I watched several of Hovind's videos, I don't recall him ever giving "citations" in them. Vague hand-waving claims that someone, somewhere supports his bizarre claims is not the same as "citations". And I'm sure as hell not going to acquire the whole 12-volume set and wade through it just to see whether or not YOUR claim about the video holds water. I'm not doing YOUR homework for you.

But feel free to present these citations if you're able. If not, we'll just draw the obvious conclusions about you.

Meanwhile, for those who would like to vicariously "enjoy" Hovind's video series without having to waste a portion of your life watching them (and/or losing IQ points with each viewing), here's a hilarious blow-by-blow by a blogger who decided to watch them all and report on his experiences: The Hovind Files: Lying for Jesus .

I'd hate to see you guys show yourselves ignorant prejudicial jackboot drones marching to some script cause you can't think for yourselves...

No, I have no interest in following your example.

1,289 posted on 12/18/2005 5:27:22 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon; Dimensio; b_sharp

Go back and look at the exchange. The poster claimed Hovind to be wrong without any real discussion and apparently in ignorance of the fact that Hovind does provide citation, that is why I jumped on it. Had they any first hand information on what Hovind was actually saying/presenting, they'd have known this. They did not. And it was apparent from the git go. The poster had no real argument, he merely had a slur he couldn't support and resorted to nonsensical games when pressed. It isn't my claim to support. His assertion was challenged and he couldn't back it up by debunking the citation or Hovind either one or he'd have done it. And I'm still waiting for that party to show they know the first thing about whence they speak. So far, nothing.

If you're going to be dishonest, I'm going to point it out to others. And that was just plain dishonest. If you got a problem with that - tough. If you're going to slander the guy, back it up. If you can't, shut up.


1,563 posted on 12/19/2005 6:14:20 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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