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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: longshadow

The anti-evos have really shown their true natures tonite, and its really been quite enlightening...


861 posted on 12/17/2005 9:23:35 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: eleni121
Notice how much it takes to refute one of my arguments...a zillion words...

I like to be thorough.

of mostly extracted copied and modified rubbish.

You sort of "forgot" to document this slur.

Notice how much a creationist is able to actually refute one of my posts -- the answer is "not at all".

862 posted on 12/17/2005 9:23:40 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Senator Bedfellow

I know what you mean...I will recognize a couple of the regular religion posters who will pop onto an evo thread, and critize the tone...and I have to think to myself, what in the world are they talking about...its worse and nastier on most religious threads than any evo thread...which is why I often have to take a break from the religious threads...it just gets too nasty over there...I know that number of religious posters have gotten banned, because they got so ugly...all in the name of Christianity...its no wonder, that Christianity is fragmented, as I said in a previous post...it does not take evolution to fragment Christianity, all it takes is a roomful of 'Christians from varying religions' to fragment Christianity...


863 posted on 12/17/2005 9:28:46 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Baraonda
No, that's the way evolutionists would like it to be - ie, to see Christianity fragmented.

Clue for the clueless: The *majority* of Americans who accept the validity of evolution are *Christians*. As far as I can tell, so are most Freeper evolutionists, although I haven't polled them.

Clue for the clueless #2: Over 10,000 Christian clergy have signed a statement clearly endorsing evolutionary biology:

[Excerpt:] "We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge."

864 posted on 12/17/2005 9:30:17 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: andysandmikesmom

Seriously. And yet *we're* the ones "destroying" religion and Christianity. Spend much time lurking in there, and you realize pretty quick that they really don't need any help for that. ;)


865 posted on 12/17/2005 9:33:02 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: balrog666
Between me and your god, I am the only one who is real.

LOL! You really shouldn't bait the creationists like that. With their mythological deity they do think they can lie their way into heaven.

866 posted on 12/17/2005 9:35:30 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Full Court
Here's a big giggle for ya, since you didn't have the decency to post the outcome. The IRS returned the 3 cars it seized.

Yeah, so? That in no way affects my point, or ameliorates Hovind's dishonesty (and loon-ness) apparent in the portions of the court document I posted. And I fail to see how my "decency" has anything to do with your non sequiter either. I didn't "have the decency" to post Hovind's shoe size or favorite cereal, either, and those are equally irrelevant to my post.

Try to focus and stay on topic, okay?

867 posted on 12/17/2005 9:35:30 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Ichneumon

I refer to the last lines of what you posted in your post #864...about the attempt to limit God....this is what I have felt to be very true about creationists...they want God to conform to the very narrow rigid view they have of Him, and will accept nothing else...I see it as trying to put God into a little box, and demanding that He conform to a preconceived notion of what some human demands that He is...

I find God to be much more powerful, much more magnificient, much more creative, than any human can ever imagine Him to be...


868 posted on 12/17/2005 9:36:48 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: Ichneumon

Lies! Lies! Lies! Lies!

The vast majority of evolutionists are atheists. Their ultimate intent is the destruction of Christianity and the culture it gave rise to. Of course there are also a few brainwashed Christians who believe in this evolution nonsense. But anyone who professes to be a Christian and a follower of Darwinism is affected by doublethink, or the concept of holding two contradictory ideas in one's mind and accepting both of them at the same time.


869 posted on 12/17/2005 9:36:55 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: andysandmikesmom; Senator Bedfellow
it does not take evolution to fragment Christianity, all it takes is a roomful of 'Christians from varying religions' to fragment Christianity...

Here is a post I wrote a while back listing over 160 branches of Christianity. I doubt that evolutionary biology had the power to fragment Christianity that much...

870 posted on 12/17/2005 9:39:20 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: andysandmikesmom

You're too naive, andysandmikesmom, if you cannot see what's happening. Either that or your station in life is fine and dandy. But remember this: someday your future progeny will damn you for the future you would have left them.


871 posted on 12/17/2005 9:40:25 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: nmh
I often wonder ... for those who gobble up the garbage of evolution and claim to be "Christians" just WHO is their "god"? It sure isn't mine. Mine isn't powerless and puny and certainly no "ape".

Our God is powerful enough to create evolution. Your God is so puny he mixed radioactive isotopes in exactly the right quantities to make it look like a 6000 year old earth was really 4.5 billion years old. Whose faith is stronger?

Try understanding what the "garbage" of evolution is actually saying. You will learn that it does not contradict God in any way. All it contradicts is the literal description of creation in the Bible, but the creation stories of Genesis already contradict themselves. They cannot both be literally true.

872 posted on 12/17/2005 9:41:16 PM PST by Thalos
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To: Baraonda
Lies! Lies! Lies! Lies!

What a masterful rebuttal. Oh, wait, no it's not...

The vast majority of evolutionists are atheists.

A wise man once said, "never argue with a fool, bet him money". Would you care to bet twenty bucks on that claim, as it relates to American evolutionists?

Their ultimate intent is the destruction of Christianity and the culture it gave rise to. Of course there are also a few brainwashed Christians who believe in this evolution nonsense.

Over 10,000 Christian clergy, in fact. How many can *you* get to sign *your* version?

But anyone who professes to be a Christian and a follower of Darwinism is affected by doublethink, or the concept of holding two contradictory ideas in one's mind and accepting both of them at the same time.

10,000+ Christian clergy disagree with you on that. I think I'll take their considered opinion over yours.

873 posted on 12/17/2005 9:43:31 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Senator Bedfellow

I often get a rude shock on those religious threads...I almost never post, just lurk...but I often do wonder, do any of these posters on the religious threads step back and take an objective look at what goes on there?...I know that a lot of them are now familiar with each other, as much as one can be on the internet...but do they ever consider the lurkers, who might be there to perhaps learn and educate themselves?...all the lurkers can see for themselves, how vile and ugly it gets on those religious threads, and they must honestly wonder what is going on...I know I did for a long time...now I am just used to the bickering...but I suppose new lurkers just get a rude awakening, for what they thought would be a religious conversation, often turns into a nasty free for all...


874 posted on 12/17/2005 9:43:50 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: PatrickHenry
A former high school science teacher turned creation science evangelist told an audience at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee last Tuesday that evolution is the “dumbest and most dangerous theory on planet Earth.”

I agree with him.

And I graduated first in my college class with a 4.0 GPA and am an ex-evolutionist.

It just astounds me that people could believe such a transparently idiotic theory as evolution. Monkeys become people. Right.

875 posted on 12/17/2005 9:46:33 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: Ichneumon

There is an encyclopedia of religions in America that lists over 1500 Christian sects and denominations in the US - I forget the name, but I'll look it up some time. Obviously, some of that depends on how you define "sect" or "denomination", but still...


876 posted on 12/17/2005 9:47:25 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Baraonda

You speak to me on NO authority...all you have is your own self serving view of the world, and the Bible, and God, and if I dont agree with you, then I am naive, and I will be damned? You have NO authority to decide this, and you should stick to worrying about your own future fate...


877 posted on 12/17/2005 9:48:02 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom

That's probably the worst aspect of it, IMO - watching them strip the flesh from some clueless newbie.


878 posted on 12/17/2005 9:48:30 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Baraonda
The vast majority of evolutionists are atheists. Their ultimate intent is the destruction of Christianity and the culture it gave rise to. Of course there are also a few brainwashed Christians who believe in this evolution nonsense. But anyone who professes to be a Christian and a follower of Darwinism is affected by doublethink, or the concept of holding two contradictory ideas in one's mind and accepting both of them at the same time.

You are absolutely right.

I am an ex-evolutionists turned Christian. Evolution is an idiot theory designed to disprove the Bible. Those who claim to to be Christians and believe in evolution are deceived. This is typical of the compromise predicted in God's Word in the end times within the Christian Church.

879 posted on 12/17/2005 9:53:10 PM PST by Jorge (Q)
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To: Ichneumon

"10,000+ Christian clergy disagree with you on that."

I don't know where you got that number, but what is that, .01%? The vast majority of these prelates that believe in evolution are infiltrators. The minuscule remainder are, like some Christian lay people, just braiwashed or naive or both.

There are three kinds of people in this world. Those who make things happen; those who watch make things happen; and, those who ask: "What happened?" Christian evolutionists are of this latter category.

On we go Christian army! An invisible, yet invincible one!


880 posted on 12/17/2005 9:54:02 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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