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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: furball4paws
Now where did all that water come from?

Out of a fairy tale?

761 posted on 12/17/2005 7:17:40 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Baraonda
"Spontaneous generation it's exactly what evolutionists believe. It's part of their belief of the origin of life."

1) The origins of life are NOT part of evolutionary theory.

2) Spontaneous generation is NOT abiogenesis, the actual theory that examines the origins of life.

"They believe that life happened out of nothing."

100% wrong.

" Nothing from nothing gives you nothing."

A good summation of your post. :)
762 posted on 12/17/2005 7:17:49 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Gumlegs

Times change and labels do too.


763 posted on 12/17/2005 7:18:51 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: balrog666
We are enjoying the last of very nice Chilean Cabernet Sauvignon here.

Is that that Costco stuff?

;-)

764 posted on 12/17/2005 7:20:10 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Baraonda; CarolinaGuitarman
Spontaneous generation it's exactly what evolutionists believe.

Nope, nice try. Try again when you've acquired an education on the topic you're attempting to critique.

It's part of their belief of the origin of life.

Not at all. See above.

They believe that life happened out of nothing. Nothing from nothing gives you nothing.

Wow, you're *really* unclear on this whole biology thing, aren't you? No, life did not begin from "nothing", it began from existing matter, via the existing laws of reality.

765 posted on 12/17/2005 7:20:52 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Baraonda; eleni121

You know, most of the posters on FR, who have come down on the side of teaching ID alongside of evolution in school, have said that they dont necessarily want it said that the 'Christian God' is the designer, but rather that there is just a designer...but the two of you, very clearly from your postings, would seem to want the designer be designated as the 'Christian God'....as you seem to believe, that those who believe in evolution have only one intent, and that would be to undermine Christian origin beliefs...so even among IDers and creationists there is a real split between those who want a generic designer designated, and those who want the Christian God as designer...

And you are quite deluded and uninformed if you think that Iders/creationists outnumber those who believe in evolution..evey poll I have seen on this subject, shows that in the great majority, people believe in evolution when the only other choice given in ID...

What believers in ID with the Christian God as designer cannot grasp, is that most of those who say they believe in evolution also believe in the Bible...so the tactic of calling everyone who believes in evolution an atheist is a rather stupid, and empty tactic...of course, then you can go off on a tangent, and say that those who believe in evolution cannot possibly really believe the Bible(like you, with your supposed superior knowledge do)...I guess you have to say that, to give yourself some comfort, knowing that millions and millions of people do believe in the truth of the Bible, and do believe in evolution...

Saying that those who believe in evolution are very small in number is a laughable remark, and also I suppose what you have to tell yourself...but that does not make it so, ,and every poll done shows that you are completely wrong...


766 posted on 12/17/2005 7:21:30 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: stormer

Ok.

Thanks.


767 posted on 12/17/2005 7:23:51 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Stultis

It is apparent to many Christians that the so called "science" of evolution is not applying to itself what you say it should, that is "adjusted to accommodate the (new) theory"

From fraud - The Great Piltdown Hoax - to a host of egregious practices and coverups - the scientific world is gradually retreating into a corner...and then lashing out at those who would dare question its methods and absolutism.

What Christians want is not the destruction of science or the scientific method - after all it was the coming of Christinity that unleashed the freedom of inquiry - but rather the breakup of conformist evolution---allowing a breath of fresh air into the discussion of origins and life on earth and the untethering of human origins to Darwin's ill formed theories.


768 posted on 12/17/2005 7:24:01 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Senator Bedfellow
Actually, towards the end, if you parsed your way through all the punctuation, more than a few of his posts were quite nasty. Think he finally blew his wheels for good, but if you're longing to relive the past he's over on LP under the handle "byeltsin"

I probably missed those, although I must admit, I never quite took him seriously. He must have posted something offensive enough to get himself banned, but I didn't see it.

769 posted on 12/17/2005 7:24:46 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Baraonda; Ichneumon
Argument by bald assertion? That oughta work like a damn.

How about you try to back up what you assert on occasion?
770 posted on 12/17/2005 7:26:32 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: Baraonda

The method I described created the computer and telecomminications technology that allowed you to reply to me..

If that offends you, chuck your computer in the trash.

BTW the hallmark of honesty is the willingness to alter your way of viewing the world based on new experience.

Science doesn't force the shoe to fit the foot. It makes a new shoe. That's called progress.


771 posted on 12/17/2005 7:27:52 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: eleni121

LOL!!

The Catholic Church (the only game in town for over 1000 years) was the greatest impediment to human progress in the history of mankind.

They seemed to have passed that baton on to others now.


772 posted on 12/17/2005 7:28:10 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: balrog666
Times change and labels do too.

Are you doubting the label of Bacchus?

773 posted on 12/17/2005 7:28:16 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Ok.

Thank you.


774 posted on 12/17/2005 7:28:17 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: furball4paws
Does that mean you are becoming Rhinoplastered?
775 posted on 12/17/2005 7:28:34 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: Ichneumon

Must have skipped 540 in order to catch up.

I'll read it when I have time.


776 posted on 12/17/2005 7:30:33 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: b_sharp

No, but it means that the pills I took to counteract the Rhinoid are about to put me to sleep.


777 posted on 12/17/2005 7:30:55 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: andysandmikesmom

Polls polls polls....Yeah...well all right. Polls don't matter when it comes to what is right. But your "poll research" doesn't fly anyway...

A recent poll conducted by Virginia Commonwealth University finds
(quoting below):

* When asked to choose from statements representing the three main theories of the origin of biological life,

42 percent said that the "creationist" view --- that God directly created biological life in its present form at one point in time --- was closest to their own views about life's origin.

Twenty-six percent selected a statement representing "intelligent design" --- that biological life developed over time from simple substances, but God guided this process.

Another 17 percent chose a view reflecting evolution --- that biological life developed over time from simple substances, but God did not guide this process.

* Regardless of their personal views about the origin of life, almost half of those surveyed --- 47 percent --- believe that a combination of theories should be taught in the public schools, while 21 percent believe creationism should be the only theory taught, 15 percent believe that evolution should be the only theory taught, and 5 percent believe that intelligent design should be the only theory
taught. Of those who feel that a combination of theories should be taught in public schools, 59 percent believe that students should receive instruction on all three theories.


(Margin of error +/- 3 percentage points.)


Full press release (including much more detail, including the specific questions asked) at:

http://www.vcu.edu/uns/Releases/2005/oct/102405a.html


778 posted on 12/17/2005 7:31:31 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Gumlegs
"Are you doubting the label of Bacchus?"


He did not mean to mock. Verily - I am one with the spirit of Silenus.
779 posted on 12/17/2005 7:32:54 PM PST by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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Delusions are often functional and good night ===> Placemarker <===
780 posted on 12/17/2005 7:34:11 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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