Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]

University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

[darbymcgill]

and none of my refutation of your post relies on any such omniscience,

NOTE: I have not made another ping list as I included all in the original... Unless I missed someone...

So, clairvoyance is an omniscience?

Where does that put paleontology? But I digress....

We'll start with your clairvoyance and move on from there...

You were obviously presenting a list of what you felt were *fallacious*, or at least unfair, arguments from the "FR scientists"

Do you know what my "feelings" were when I wrote this list or when I re-posted it on this thread. Which was it?

he was stating that while such replies have been used, they were *appropriate* responses to the creationist argument they were in reply to. He was *disagreeing* that they belonged on a list of alleged poor behavior by "FR scientists".

Did he say the responses were "appropriate"? Did you ask him?... Did he say he was disagreeing with me? Did you ask him or read his mind?

even a ping to the evolution list later in a thread could easily be made for innocent purposes

Do you know why someone hits the ping list? Do you ask them? Oh, BTW, why did you hit it on this response? hmmmmm

It wasn't. It was a swipe at unspecified veteran FR creationists as a group, not at you.

This one is classic, a double not only by you but him. He refers to me 3 times in one sentence and you say he was really talking about someone else. He places me next to his straw man (Creationist company) and associated insults then doesn't even have the courtesy to ping me. You change the definition of "he, he'd, and his" in direct response to a post made TO me into a hypothetical generalization about someone completely different... good... a double double... BTW did you ask him if he meant "hypothetical"....???

you were clearly thinking

I was? Is that a complement? And I don't recall you asking me what I was thinking? Maybe you did and I forgot...

I'm sure you're being wildly presumptious here based on nothing but your own paranoia

You're "sure"? Absolutely "sure" or just sorta "sure"? WOW... not only can you read people's minds you can do psychoanalysis will you're in there... Does this mean I'll be getting a bill?

you *know* you've been caught at it.

I *know*??? If I didn't know that I knew when I posted it, I surely know now.... Thanks..

While Coyoteman did mention his degree, it was *not* done for the cheesy purposes

It wasn't for "cheesy purposes"? oh... well then it's OK he gets a pass... BTW did you ask him why he mentioned it? did you notice any psychosis in him while you were reading his mind?

Clearly, his remark about flevit's grammar was *not* done in the service of avoiding admitting that RWP "doesn't know the answer"

Really, now that is quite a leap in reasoning from the way I read the exchange, but hey.... You knew exactly what RWP was thinking and you knew that he would never insult someone's grammar when he made a mistake in interpretation.. He's not the insulting type is he?... Did you ask RWP what he was thinking or do you just know that's what he meant?

His swipe at flevit's grammar was in direct explanation and response to flevit's snide accusation that RWP had "forgotten" to address something. No, he had honestly misunderstood it due to flevit's poor writing.

A bit off topic but I find the adjectives used in your response quite telling. For flevit it's "snide remark", "poor grammar" and for RWP it's "direct explanation and response" and "honestly misunderstood".... how noble and ethical of you...

Shall I go on to the next batch?.... Nah...

But I would like to address one other issue.

or are you going to continue to issue gradeschool-level taunts

Would you call this:

Face it like an adult, if you're able. What kind of example are you setting for your college-age children?

Is this a grown-up taunt because you said it or a gradeschool-level taunt that you were hoping no one would notice?

If I want to refer to my family that's my business, but I will thank you in advance for leaving references to them out of any future homilies you perform to my detriment..

And finally, please do not issue me any future challenges until you answer the one I posted to you yesterday. If you're still doing research, I understand. To save you a bit of time, I think going back past May or so will be futile... I'll be waiting...

[VadeRetro]

Are you really in some kind of denial over which side you nitpick and which side you have ignored on FR threads for the past, say, five years? Is that your story? You can do this because no one remembers you?

(Yawn!)

[VadeRetro]

Does it make you guys even more important in each other's eyes to constantly ridicule someone not here to defend themselves?

Some people deserve to be immortalized. Especially once they are no longer cluttering up the joint with their latest material. We can selectively enjoy the best of their old stuff without having to endure the worst of their new.

[VadeRetro]

Ah, the good old days. What a classic thread!

Made my day just re-reading parts of it. Few things are so funny for so many hours running as that was.

[VadeRetro]

Thanks. I count myself fortunate to be in such esteemed company.

Ditto. (Not a another reference to Ms. Jed2.)

[eleni121]

Nothing more pathetic than spelling police who get it wrong.
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What's pathetic is someone who gets his jollies this way.

[whattajoke]

If you don't want to be ridiculed, the best policy is not to say stupid stuff in the first place

Eh, I'd put a finer point on it... go ahead and say stupid (ie, ignorant) stuff, but when someone takes the time to correct you and provide numerous links, DON'T REPEAT THE STUPID STUFF ON ANOTHER THREAD LIKE YOU WEREN'T CORRECTED PREVIOUSLY.

[Dimensio]

I put the SNES9xtyl-0 in the photo section of my PSP and it can't open. Do I need to put a game in it first?

Still no links to any thesis written on Piltdown Man? Not even one?

Why not just admit that you were mistaken when you made the claim? Why can't creationists ever admit their errors?

[whattajoke]

The only time I've seen folks go after a typo is when the typo itself happened to be *funny*

I'm guilty of jumping on "tenants of evolution." I don't know why, but that one always gets me. And good ol' goodseedhomeschool's typos were always good - esp since they weren't so much typos but rather just piss poor grammar and misspellings. In light of the fact that her whole raison d'etre was homeschooling, I felt the need to help her (and her lovely son) out as best as I could from afar. Speaking of her... nah, I won't go there... *coughfullcourtcough*... ahem.

[eleni121]

Still nodding off? Still playing with yourself? Still needy?

Still feeding off EVO lies and nonsense?

[whattajoke]

What a classic thread!

Geeze, and I'd almost forgotten what an important role I had in Gore3k's demise. Thank you, thankyouverymuch.

[Dimensio]

Still nodding off? Still playing with yourself? Still needy?

I see that you're still using dishonest tactics to cover up your lies. You have no shame.

[ml1954]

The Inquisitors were unsuccessful in their efforts.

[Coyoteman]

While Coyoteman did mention his degree, it was *not* done for the cheesy purposes

It wasn't for "cheesy purposes"? oh... well then it's OK he gets a pass... BTW did you ask him why he mentioned it? did you notice any psychosis in him while you were reading his mind?

I mentioned my graduate schooling only because two of my fields were fossil man and human osteology for the (apparently can't mention) exams. I am one of the few on these threads with extensive (although old) experience with a lot of the osteological evidence for evolution. (Unfortunately, a lot of the action now is by the DNA and biology folks.)

Psychosis? Of course, I'm an archaeologist. What did you expect, normal?

[VadeRetro]

I miss all the fun. Sigh.

You're too nice to get on any of the "We've got to eviscerate him, then rip off his head, then kill him" lists.

[Full Court]

I believe that it's the height of parental irresponsibility to drink in front of your children.

If you want to play some kind of semantics game and call my beliefs those of a "nanny state" go right ahead, it doesn't bother me at all.

I am far more independent minded than most of the people I have seen posting here, so your feeble attack goes in the waste bin of "nice try but it won't work" posts.

[ml1954]

I believe that it's the height of parental irresponsibility to drink in front of your children.

I guess it's more responsible for parents to hide drinking from the kids (we'll hope they'll never know). Of course, prohibitionists would object to that too.

[andysandmikesmom]

Yes, indeed, whether Jack Chick was elderly at the time or not I did not know ...but on this other forum, the name of the poster was 'JackChick', and what he was saying, conformed exactly to what I read later on the JackChick website...now, did I 'see' him through the computer screen?...no, but all I can relate is the name of the poster that I talking with, and what he was saying and the approximate date of this discussion, which was around June of 2001...And I know the date, because it was shortly after I talked with the poster named 'JackChick', I looked around for another site, found FR, and signed on..

[editor-surveyor]

"Eugenics is perfectly compatible with creationism"

Perhaps in your kind of creationism jen, but in mine it is the same evolution-based racism of the theosophists and Thules.

[andysandmikesmom]

Regarding your post #1492...I would not be jealous of that...It was a scarey experience for me...I had never encountered anyone like him before, and it was pretty scarey...Up until I had encountered him, there had been disagreements on that other site, but usually the disagreements were more or less cordial...then this 'JackChick' poster started in and I had not seen anyone act like that on the site...one thing led to another and bam, I was banned...tho reinstated...actually a whole lot of posters from that site wound up being banned all at the same time, and so a whole flood of us wound up coming over to FR at the same time...so with FR being a much bigger and often intimidating site, it was good for us, starting out new on FR, that we had other internet 'friends', here..it was the best move that could have been made, and many of those same posters are still here today..