Posted on 11/29/2005 9:31:13 AM PST by Sub-Driver
Kansas Prof. Apologizes for E-Mail
11 minutes ago
A University of Kansas religion professor apologized for an e-mail that referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face."
In a written apology Monday, Paul Mirecki, chairman of the university's Religious Studies Department, said he would teach the planned class "as a serious academic subject and in an manner that respects all points of view."
The department faculty approved the course Monday but changed its title. The course, originally called "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationisms and other Religious Mythologies," will instead be called "Intelligent Design and Creationism."
The class was added to next spring's curriculum after the Kansas State Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in its standards for science teaching. The vote was seen as a big win for proponents of intelligent design, who argue that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by a higher power.
Critics say intelligent design is merely creationism a literal reading of the Bible's story of creation camouflaged in scientific language.
Mirecki's e-mail was sent Nov. 19 to members of the Society of Open-Minded Atheists and Agnostics, a student organization for which he serves as faculty adviser.
"The fundies (fundamentalists) want it all taught in a science class, but this will be a nice slap in their big fat face by teaching it as a religious studies class under the category mythology."
Mirecki addressed the message to "my fellow damned" and signed off with: "Doing my part to (tick) off the religious right, Evil Dr. P."
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Sometimes things come out better than you plan.
Oops I got the color wrong - it's the red crescent not green.
And dont forget to get the shirt:
Well you are entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, which still is that he sounds like the Wendy's finger lady. 40 suits is in the haberdashery range.
Not that I needed to salvage anything but that would be a bit more than you have. The guy is an admitted failure in his field.
It did in this case. He sued for libel and lost. Plus he is an admitted failure in his field. I really doubt he was used as an expert in his field of psychiatry(in which by his failure gives evidence of his non-expertise) but in a field apart from his training. And let me remind you aspirin's origins are from "herbal teas" not a drug company's labs.
What are you saying? Because I posted his Email I am a liar? Be specific
The liar is inescapably concerned with truth-values. In order to invent a lie at all, he must think he knows what is the truth. And in order to invent an effective lie, he must design his falsehood under the guidance of truthThe word sh*t does, to be sure, suggest this. Excrement is not designed or crafted at all; it is merely emitted or dumped. It may have a more or less coherent shape, or it may not, but it is in any case not wrought.
-On Bullshit by Harry G. Frankfurt
IMHO, these two simple quotes sum up this whole debate. Sh*t is not designed and I do not think anyone would look for truth from sh*t. But for anyone to demand that no design was required for intelligence, they must rely on something to form their truth to counter accusations that contradict their philosophy from basically sh*t.
Seriously, think about it No intelligent design in our very being? Where does this leave us and who is rolling over into - mythology?
BTW, I got the Email from here
A forum with agnostics who still see ID as a plausible cause
And I merely posted the source that the original Email came from
His field? You mean medicine? Looks to me like he practiced as a licensed physician for many years until he retired. No history of disciplinary action against him, commendations from the FDA, formerly affiliated with Penn State. Oh, yes - an obvious "failure in his field". LOL.
I take it you go to a psychiatrist for chest pains. Good luck.
What are you saying? Because I posted his Email I am a liar?
I never said posting his email made someone a liar. The liar, IMO, is whoever lied to gain access to the original on the listserv.
You are aware, I assume, that a psychiatrist is a medical doctor, correct?
And he would pop into your mind whenever you had chest pains?
So "doctor" = "someone you call when you have chest pains"? Huh? Do you call a cardiologist when your back hurts?
Depends where, but I wouldn't call a psychiatrist. That is nowhere near his field of expertise(if any in the case of the self-admitted board failure Barrett)
So the person that posted his original Email in a public forum is a liar? I just want to narrow down who you believe is this liar Furthermore you obviously know the media has had the full Email from the beginning Hence the article
Well, I say that a doctor is someone you call when your back hurts. I guess your cardiologist isn't really practicing medicine either.
So the person that posted his original Email in a public forum is a liar?
I repeat....The liar, IMO, is whoever lied to gain access to the original on the listserv.
Well, I know that is what you might think since apparently you would call a psychiatrist for chest pains.(Angina can be felt in the back, the chin, the elbow etc. that is known as referred pain)
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