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University Is Accused of Bias Against Christian Schools
New York Times ^ | November 20, 2005 | CAROLYN MARSHALL

Posted on 11/19/2005 11:37:00 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Right Wing Professor

The student in question had excellent test scores so he apparently was qualified. We all know where you stand on the altar of Darwinism. Admit there is a bias against Christians in many, many universities.


41 posted on 11/20/2005 4:08:30 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: durasell

Oops, one L


42 posted on 11/20/2005 4:09:10 AM PST by durasell
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To: mlc9852
The student in question had excellent test scores so he apparently was qualified.

SAT and ACT scores do not measure whether you have adequate coursework preparation for college. I've looked over the Bob Jones and A Beka books; I wouldn\t approve them either. They substitute biblical verses for teaching fundamental principles of the subject.

We all know where you stand on the altar of Darwinism.

Amusing how you cannot view anything except through the lens of a religion.

Admit there is a bias against Christians in many, many universities.

My university has many religious student organizations which use university facilities, including space on the University's web server; we have campus chapels and chaplains; we have preachers on campus all the time. We are instructed as faculty to make accomodation for religious holidays. One of our recent former football coaches actively pressured students to join the Fellowship of Christian Athletes.

So this is bias?

What we will not countenance is the substitution of Genesis, or any other creation myth, for well established physics, biology, astronomy, or geology.

43 posted on 11/20/2005 4:22:37 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: ScubieNuc
"it depends on what you mean by 'is'..."


44 posted on 11/20/2005 4:22:58 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

"Amusing how you cannot view anything except through the lens of a religion."

Spoken like a true atheist.


45 posted on 11/20/2005 4:24:46 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Right Wing Professor
"My university has many religious student organizations"...

"Some of my best friends are black..."


46 posted on 11/20/2005 4:25:33 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Right Wing Professor

They substitute biblical verses for teaching fundamental principles of the subject.


No medical textbooks I hope.


47 posted on 11/20/2005 4:25:43 AM PST by durasell
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To: durasell
To clarify, some may be far academically superior.

I believe they are morally superior. In as that they are able to permit religious freedom where such in public school is savagely curtailed.

Morality is openly taught in Christian schools where morality is not implied in public schools. The same values taught to previous successful generations are taught in Christian schools where public schools are now havens for communist and socialist indoctrination. Social promotion in public schools is normal, promoting children based on social acceptance where these private school still apply the "achievement" standard. That's what the parents of those children pay for.

And finally, Christian morality wins out over a moral vaccum every time.

This makes them superior to public schools in every sense. Religion has it's place in school, there is no dispute over this, as we have seen the results of banishing religion from public life. This is a Christian country no matter what anyone thinks, the only reason the founding fathers felt morally justified in their actions was because they felt they were endowed with such inalienable rights by their creator.

Public schools seem to more or less want children to forget that. I believe it's simply a process to destroy any sense of such rights and desire for freedom within this nation by raising generations of children who simply do not know that they are entitled to such.

As far as acedemically superior, I'd state in general terms easily. Discipline and respect are essential to academic progress. Usually these schools are a step above in those areas, so the children who attend are already several steps ahead on that alone.

48 posted on 11/20/2005 4:26:57 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: HitmanNY
Is it possible that besides these credentials, the candidates are just duds?

Clever. But what you say doesn't address the question. It is not the individual that is being discriminated against, it is the curriculum. For example, I teach at a Christian school and present neo-Darwinianism as a theory/philosophy with certain problems, not necessarily religious problems.

My better students are doing well at good universities, such as UC Berkeley, UC Irvine, UCLA, Rutgers, USC, and one current student being solicited by Columbia. Their academic rigor has not suffered from an open discussion of current topics from a Christian point of view.

The University of California would propose to eliminate from consideration such students, with no regard to their capability.

49 posted on 11/20/2005 4:27:16 AM PST by Chaguito
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To: Caipirabob

I'm of the school of thought that morality should be taught at home.

As for academics, I can name a few public schools in NYC that outshine almost any other school, private, religious or public in the country.


50 posted on 11/20/2005 4:29:22 AM PST by durasell
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

Ok try this. Have them give your daughter and all the members of their basketball and football teams a series of tests and see who should be there. If they challenge that school's credentials, in writing, find out some of the high schools they have accepted. I think the Federal government has records. Also check out the SATs there of those athletes. Should be interesting. Good luck.


51 posted on 11/20/2005 4:31:19 AM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: pageonetoo

Ah, the race card. It's not just for Jesse Jackson any more!


52 posted on 11/20/2005 4:32:43 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Ain Soph Aur

Well, you TA has voiced a valid point. There are things, like multiplication table, for example, where "diversity of opinion" would indeed provoke a well deserved "hahaha".


53 posted on 11/20/2005 4:42:34 AM PST by GSlob
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To: Right Wing Professor
Ah, the race card. It's not just for Jesse Jackson any more!

No, it applies equally to other types of bigots.

I am a Theist. I have a different point of view, which you claim is irrelevant to the question. Yet, you wish to support your premise by fiat, not by argument.

A theory is just that, and nothing more. My theory allows for a God, who is omnipotent, to create laws of physics, and universes of knowledge.

Yours says its all an accident of time...


54 posted on 11/20/2005 4:55:00 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: GSlob

"There are things, like multiplication table, for example, where "diversity of opinion" would indeed provoke a well deserved "hahaha"."

Yes, and much of academia is striving to make belief in God one of those things.

This is evil, and must be stopped, even if it require that we water the roots of the tree of liberty.


55 posted on 11/20/2005 5:07:10 AM PST by dsc
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To: Right Wing Professor

I am in complete agreement with you. University is university, and seminary is seminary, and these are two different kinds of a beast, at least at present. It is not the 13th century any longer.


56 posted on 11/20/2005 5:07:55 AM PST by GSlob
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To: pageonetoo
You imply I'm a bigot, and then you proceed to fabricate stuff and tell me that's what I believe.

You're not just a bigot, you're a moron.

57 posted on 11/20/2005 5:12:28 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: ScubieNuc
If a college rejects you because of your faith in Jesus, that would be great sign to go to a Christian college.

It would be a good sign to go to a Christian (or at least more Christian-friendly) college, and in general colleges should have the right to discriminate if they want. The problem is when a college takes your taxpayer money and then discriminates against you in admissions.

My solution would be to abolish state schools, and if the state wants to offer affordable education, then it can offer need- and merit-based scholarships directly to the students, good at any college of their choosing. There's no reason the state has to be running colleges, taxing everyone to finance them, and then forcing students to go there if they want a return on those taxes.

58 posted on 11/20/2005 5:12:53 AM PST by Young Scholar
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To: dsc
This is evil, and must be stopped, even if it require that we water the roots of the tree of liberty.

Oh look, an honest to goodness call for jihad.

What are you going to do, hijack a plane and crash it into the biology lab of your local university?

59 posted on 11/20/2005 5:14:36 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor

"Oh look, an honest to goodness call for jihad."

Oh, look, the expected honest-to-goodness lie from a religious bigot.

That would be you.


60 posted on 11/20/2005 5:24:00 AM PST by dsc
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