Posted on 11/11/2005 4:47:36 PM PST by Wolfstar
Bizzare question in the context of this thread. This has nothing to do with whether or not God hates me or anyone else.
Are you the Wolfstar who does the marvelous photo series, "A Day in the Life of President Bush?"
Most likely caused or partially caused by long term inbreeding and incest which are known genetic monkey wrenches.. course chronic drug abuse including alcohol can be a long term factor as well..
You know, pretty much as the bible lays out..
Another falsehood. He included Downs Syndrome in his list in the OP.
The contrary to evolution in involution, not devolution. Evolution does not imply linear progress, even though Huxley and the other soldiers of Darwinism took that stance.
Your original post characterizes these defects as "cruel"; that is a substitute for evil. The answer to why a designer would permit "cruelty" in his design is that he is either incompetent or malevolent.
If the word "intelligent" is paired with the word "design," then that conjures in my mind ideas of efficiency.
Birth defects (or defects of any kind for that matter) are obviously inefficient. The answer to why the designer would permit inefficiency is because he is either incompetent or malevolent.
It's that which I am trying to get to, not religious connotations.
The religious connotations are unavoidable. Only dissemblers claim that intelligent design is about anything other than deities.
If intelligent design is to be taught in schools as a an alternative scientific theory, I want to understand its underpinnings.
Oh, well if that's all you want then why didn't you say so? Here ya go!
The underpinnings of intelligent design are science.
Scientist have observed order and concluded that it is not chaos and not properly explained by randomness. This is the predominate view throughout all of science-- when one observes order we presume design or intention.
It is only in the radical Darwinian community is there an adamant faithful insistence upon order must be caused by randomness.
Cruel in the context of this world. Cruel to the baby, for the parents and extended family.
Do you believe in the theory of intelligent design? If so, then perhaps you might turn your own question around and share how the theory reconciles inefficiencies such as the list of birth defects provided above.
The designer is not necessarily God.
Do we wish to talk theology or ID?
Intelligent design has nothing to do with God. Either that or its advocates have committed perjury.
But the more important question is, when ID is taught in school, how are these questions about the motives and methods of the designer going to be answered?
Total order is total randomness.
You might benefit from reading Behe's book "Darwin's black box". As a biochemist, he lays out a fairly detailed explanation of what ID and IC are.
Tell me who the hypothesized designer is then and we can talk about that instead.
Tell me who the hypothesized designer is then and we can talk about that instead.
With all due respect, I find it quite interesting that I am asking these questions in the context of intelligent design as a scientific theory, while most of the responses have ignored intelligent design and gone straight to religion.
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please allow billions of years for my above response to emerge as the brilliance that it is
Then perhaps you need to address the question to a control group who has no contamination from living in the world. Good luck with that. Plus then, you might have a real experiment.
AntiGuv, with all due respect, I am not interested in the "problem of evil." I am interested in intelligent design as a scientific theory to be taught in schools.
I would love to discuss the thoughts in your first paragraph, but not in the context of good and evil.
I would say that appears to be our job, to create purpose.
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