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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 17

Posted on 11/05/2005 1:26:38 PM PST by Slings and Arrows

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KEYWORDS: boycottaruba; corruptlittleisland; deepakisarapist; jorandidit; natalee; nataleeholloway
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I think Britain needs to revise their immigration policy if this horrible kind of criminal industry has been imported by those they have allowed into their country.

If the 4 suspects sold Natalee in a sex trade deal, and it could be proved (not likely in the Aruban justice system), they should get the death penalty.

Trafficking in sex slaves is absolutely despicable and as bad as murder, IMO.


1,261 posted on 11/27/2005 10:51:28 AM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal; RGVTx

You're doing fine, and we all appreciate your hard work.

[We need a flow chart to keep up with the Aruban criminals, just like we need one to keep up with bubba, incorporated.]


1,262 posted on 11/27/2005 11:01:44 AM PST by LucyT
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To: shebacal; justche; Canadian Outrage; LucyT; deetch; No Surrender No Retreat; MAWG; Malichi; ...

From Getagrip at SM:

Email from kooky Lisa that appeared in Solo di Pueblo 11/25/2005, under the headline Thank God that people like Lisa in the US defends us against bad people

From: Lisa C supportaruba@hotmail.com
Date: Nov 23, 2005 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: I love Aruba
To: juliet.dirksz@gmail.com

Hi Juliette (That is a beautiful name),

Thank You sooo much...rest assured I WILL make a difference.
It’s about time justice prevail here and I have the outlet from my relationship with Actor Jan Michael Vincent to be able to outshout that one in the news...

Yesterday alone was the 1st time no one from the Twitty camp spoke on TV since learning of me.

We have hundreds of names today on the Boycott I have initiated against this Troublemaker. We need names...MANY names to sign the Petition.I had arranged 2 rally’s today in Aruba and they were hugely successful! Please stay in touch. A LOT is happening to benefit Aruba now. Thank Goodness....

I am so very HONORED and LUCKY to meet all of you whom I find to be Loving and GENUINE people.

God Bless You and have a beautiful Holiday..ALL will be fine....Don’t worry.


1,263 posted on 11/27/2005 11:04:03 AM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: RGVTx

Since this is a failed actress/entertainer, and she sees how successful the ugly Cindy person has been at garnering attention, Lisa will give it a try.

Bad publicity is better than no publicity; there are always misfits who are willing to gather 'round and create chaos with them. They desperately need someone to pay attention to them.


1,264 posted on 11/27/2005 11:28:46 AM PST by LucyT
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To: RGVTx
Yesterday alone was the 1st time no one from the Twitty camp spoke on TV since learning of me.

LOL! Good ole Looney Lisa.

I doubt the 'Twitty camp' even knows she exists.

I wonder how much Aruba is paying her?

She is right about one thing: It’s about time justice prevail here... JUSTICE FOR NATALEE, that is.

1,265 posted on 11/27/2005 11:33:25 AM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal; justche; Canadian Outrage; LucyT; deetch; No Surrender No Retreat; MAWG; Malichi; ...

More from Loony Lisa. This is from an email she wrote. It's an article she wrote that will be published soon...in Aruba, I assume. BTW, her email address is in the previous post.


"SAVING ARUBA"
By Lisa Chiafullo

On Tuesday November 22, 2005 I made the decision to step in and do my best
to SAVE ARUBA...

For months and months I have been watching this case and Beth Holloway
Twitty on a daily basis turning what SHOULD be a truly SAD situation into a
media frenzy. I said to my mother "Mom, if she continues to do this for
obvious media exposure, I am going to step in and do something".

The final straw for ME was this "Boycott" she is trying to obtain against
the island of Aruba. On Tuesday November 22, 2005 I derived a Press Release
and sent it NOT to the Tabloids, but to credible news organizations calling
attention to the fact that I am fully prepared to STOP this so called
Boycott.
I used the words "Boycotting Beth Holloway Twitty" however, I would like to
revise that as I am Boycotting HER ACTIONS to Boycott Aruba.

I would like to convey before I go any further a little about myself.
I am not a perfect person. I have a past....A very unusual one.
I do believe my past however, is the reason I can be helpful because I have
learned alot in my unusual life from my many mistakes.

I was a poor girl on Welfare growing up in New Jersey and lived with my
mother and Grandparents. I was abused at 11 by a NJ singer which I didn't
realize affected me terribly later in life. I quit school in the 6th grade
and at the age of 15, I ran away with the Bass Player in "Steppenwolf" so I
could HAVE a better life as well.

From there it was dominos...I never wanted to go back to being poor so I
found myself caught up in a whirlwind of celebrity boyfriends to be able to
LIVE. Little did I know until a few years ago, I was only existing.

I have endured more than a normal amount of tremendous loss and yes, I had
to sell my stories to the Tabloids and risk credibility and that is WHY I
have NOT contacted the Tabloid media regarding THIS issue...Simply because I
do NOT want or need ANY money.

My sole purpose for stepping in is to fight for justice because no one ever
fought for me...I always had to fight alone with my Mom.
No one until now has fought for the rights and voice of Aruba..I can speak
volumes and I know that I will be successful in restoring the serenity Aruba
HAD prior to the Holloway case and I WILL prevent any Boycott.

I am putting myself out there and I am a target because of my life but I
MUST do this. I need to because I can and will make a difference.
SOMEONE HAS TO.

I have boxes of media from my life and I unlike Miss Twitty do not NEED
media attention for ME. The attention needs to be directed to the
CAUSE...Not Lisa Chiafullo.

My life story was written in the July 98' issue of COSMOPOLITAN MAGAZINE.
When that hit the stands I was vindicated from Rumor.

The hardest part for me is that I am reliving the loss of MY baby who was
taken from me after I was beaten by Actor and "AIRWOLF" Star Jan Michael
Vincent on March 18, 1995 in Van Nuys, California. The hospital VALLEY
PRESBYTERIAN determined the loss was from the beating and my child with Jan
Michael Vincent would now be 10 years old...I WON in a court of law a
Lawsuit but I dropped it...It was never about money, contrary to what was
reported..I have the documents reflecting this.

From there I became homeless with my Mom and we had no one. Amazing how you
lose your friends when you lose your means and your money in Los Angeles.
In 98' I continued to try and save Jan from his illness and to this day,
still love the very man who hurt me so because it was drugs and alcohol that
caused such awful actions that day in March 1995...

I changed my name because I HATED who I was...Not anymore.
I have learned to respect myself and when that happened, I then created a
nice business and now I have a peaceful life and more than that, I have
INNER PEACE for the first time and I am no longer existing, I am LIVING.

I care for my mom and my life is her, My dogs, Cooking, Boating and Fishing
and of course, running my business.

I have no agenda except to prevent the island of Aruba from being further
hurt and affected by Beth Holloway Twitty who seems to be clearly motivated
NOW by the attention as opposed to JUST finding her missing daughter.

I think Miss Twitty is suffering much of what I had in the beginning when I
too had media Attention all of a sudden and became addicted to it because I
felt I was a nothing before that.

If every parent tried to Boycott the geographical location where there child
experienced tragedy, no one would be going ANYWHERE.

I am human...I have made mistakes but I am truly only striving to be able to
put the pieces of Aruba back together again. I would do the same thing for
any place or any person whom I feel is being demolished by a Media Hound
such as Beth Twitty. I can surely spot a media hound because I WAS one!

And I have not a thing to hide...I will answer any questions from anyone
HONESTLY unlike Miss Twitty.

Miss Twitty needs to STOP all of this chaos, stay quiet and GRIEVE as a
mother should in an Appropriate way...I think she has been given more than
enough media attention so she can feel better about herself.

She has made a fool out almost everyone involved who has donated ALOT of
money (ALOT MORE than she states), etc...As well as the journalists and
media forums who believe this woman. I can prove her to be a liar but before
now, no one could reveal this...WE CAN.

We have enormous PROOF that she has lied on several issues and the last time
she was in Aruba, she high tailed it off the islandafter being INTERROGATED
and then went back and conjured up this "Boycott" in retaliation...This is
FACT, not fiction.

It's makes me sick to my stomach...She said on air" The hardest part is
being in The Dark"...It is the media and her up until now supporters who are
in the dark...When the truth is revealed, many will have egg on their faces.

She cannot be allowed to hurt an island that was nothing but good to her
with decent hardworking people trying to HELP...NOT hurt her with nothing
but a kick in the face instead of thanking the island for trying to be good
and kind.

With that being said, I am receiving thousands and thousands of emails from
all over the world INCLUDING ALABAMA supporting my mission to help you and I
promise to be honorable to all of you in Aruba and I promise to do my very
best to restore your island to the happy place it was before.

I WILL Save Aruba...
God Bless All Of You


1,266 posted on 11/27/2005 11:36:50 AM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: All
The Aruba Strategic Communications Task Force is forced to maintain its distance from Looney Lisa:

http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/

Official release of Strategic Communications Task Force
A.M. Digital - 11/26/2005

Referring to the support proposal of mrs. Lisa Chiafullo, an American citizen, in which she asks to boycott mrs. Beth Twitty in the US communication media; and considering that mrs. Chiafullo’s initiative became known in Aruba, the Strategic Communications Task Force (SCTF) wishes to clarify its positions by means of this release.

SCTF appreciates all those that provide support to safeguard the good name of Aruba. Although we support the intention behind some of mrs. Chiafullo’s expressions of the last few days, we maintain our position that the focus must remain on the investigation efforts that are done in an orderly manner and according to the legal process which is based on real facts. We trust fully that justice will prevail and that it will serve the interests of our island. We prefer to have this position instead of calls for equal time in the media or calls for boycotting Natalee’s family.

Since the beginning SCTF has maintained its objective to assure that the truth, based on solid information, is distributed to all that are involved and/or interested in the case of disappearance of Natalee Holloway. We feel that it is imperative that the Investigation Team can continue with their investigations, that are still ongoing, in order to solve this case.

[English language original text]
posted by Getagrip at 11/26/2005 11:25:00 AM
1,267 posted on 11/27/2005 11:48:33 AM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: RGVTx
Per Looney Lisa: It's makes me sick to my stomach...

You, Lisa make me sick to my stomach with your deliberate cruel attitude toward Beth.

1,268 posted on 11/27/2005 12:00:43 PM PST by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal

Oh poor Loony Lisa can't get support from Aruba when she's selling her soul for Aruba. What a stupid whoring wench!


1,269 posted on 11/27/2005 12:08:39 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: shebacal

OOOOOH! We are terrified! The All Great and Powerful Wonderful Wizard of Aruba...Looney Lisa!

Well, at least she's good for laughs.


1,270 posted on 11/27/2005 12:31:32 PM PST by Palladin (There ain't nobody here but us chickens. (Senate Dems Theme Song))
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To: shebacal
Lisa is a sick individual looking for publicity at the expense of a grieving family she never even met. Her picture in an earlier post looks like her eyes are funny...maybe she parties in Aruba or elsewhere and sympathizes with drug dealers and the criminal element Beth is dealing with. Maybe Lisa expects preferential treatment in Aruba next time....a free room...some chips...whatever hard up actresses need.
1,271 posted on 11/27/2005 1:18:34 PM PST by upstatenyrepublican
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To: upstatenyrepublican; Canadian Outrage

whatever hard up actresses need.
-----

You give her too much credit. LOL!
Loony Lisa is only the sometime girlfriend of a has-been, out of work, drunken and drugged actor. This is where she claims to derive her power to grab the ear of the media.


Now where is Canadian Outrage today?
I know she'll have fun with Loony Lisa's email address.
CO, I hope you answer your call to duty and give Loony Lisa a piece of your mind. She needs it because she has so little of her own.


1,272 posted on 11/27/2005 1:55:43 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: shebacal; justche; Canadian Outrage; LucyT; deetch; No Surrender No Retreat; MAWG; Malichi; ...

Great news!
This is from a poster at SM:


I e-mailed Skeeters to suggest that if he can't release the unedited tape itself, he should make a transcription and release that, at least of the disputed portion. Then challenge Dompig or anyone else who has heard the unedited version to specify where it is not accurate.

Skeeters replied:

Great minds think alike. As I was reading your e-mail, I was taking a break with my transscribing the tape.

Thank you for your concerns.

Jamie


1,273 posted on 11/27/2005 2:17:50 PM PST by RGVTx (Boycott Aruba/NL products list http://ashvickers.tripod.com/id2.html)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

Hey NSNR - I've been thinking of you. Wondering where you were. So glad you posted. And as usual, I'm in 100% agreement. I really believe that the POTUS SHOULD instruct the State Department to "get tough" regarding one of America's daughters. This includes "everything". Boycott Holland, send in Military and GET answers, WHATEVER it takes. I'm so sick of this BURDEN being carried solely by a 102 pound mother!!! It's a disgrace.


1,274 posted on 11/27/2005 2:36:32 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: shebacal

Britian needed to REFORM their immigration system 30 years ago. Today, just as in France, it would take a GARGANTUAN effort to get control of their problems. The subway bombings are just the beginning for Britian. The burning and lawlessness in France is just the beginning also. Canada will have an uprising in the coming days also. The West coast is already dealing with MAJOR ASIAN GANG problems.


1,275 posted on 11/27/2005 2:40:36 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: RGVTx

OMG!! Let me at this bitch!!! Yeah Lisa, Beth is shaking in her boots over you!! NOT!!!!


1,276 posted on 11/27/2005 2:42:45 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: RGVTx

"I derived? a Press Release"????? This woman is a complete nutcase. She OUGHT to be committed. What media outlet printed this?????


1,277 posted on 11/27/2005 2:47:04 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: Palladin

Even Aruba realizes that they cannot use HER!!! LOL!! Her mental illness is OBVIOUS as soon as she opens her mouth.


1,278 posted on 11/27/2005 2:50:03 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: RGVTx

Ya think I should email her????? I don't know if she should get the attention. I better think about that. LOL


1,279 posted on 11/27/2005 2:52:20 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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To: RGVTx

Great news friend. I'm sure Jamie will take care of this. Truth should prevail since it isn't just audio but VIDEO as well. You know I absolutely KNEW that Aruba was going to TRY this.


1,280 posted on 11/27/2005 2:59:20 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canadians NEED to SEPARATE from the rest of Canada because we are the ONLY Conservati)
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