Gay or European?

Traveleronline ^ | 10/12/05 | Yvette Scorse

[pissant]

My gaydar is off. It's not just the European man capris, tight jeans and Spanish lisp.

This weekend, I went out with an American friend, her Spanish boyfriend and a bunch of his Spanish guy friends. I've been out with them before, but I left the discoteca (club) "Boom!" on Thursday as confused as ever.

The guys grind with each other, touch each other, flirt, everything. Yet, my American friend swears up and down that they're not really gay, just European.

I'm not sure where this line is drawn, but if you ask me, they act pretty gay (not that there's anything wrong with that).

I don't get it. They dance with girls for a few songs, and then they're magnetically drawn to dance with another guy's butt. And it's not just dirty dancing; they spin each other and twirl and dance like they've been ballroom partners all their lives. I'm not quite sure how they figure out which one leads.

In America, it's perfectly common and fun for girls to go to a party or a club with their best girl friends and dance with each other. But I can't imagine any of my straight American guy friends grinding up against each other and enjoying it. And girls wouldn't particularly enjoy watching a couple of guys grind either.

Yes, it's a double standard, but it's something about homophobic American guys that would prevent them from dirty dancing with each other.

Every time I go out with these guys, I'm not sure how far the gayness will go, but I swear, at any moment they're gonna start making out.

Actually, one of these "gay" Spaniards did lick my American friend Dan's ear this weekend. Although Dan isn't uptight about the European man dancing, the ear licking went a little too far for him. I suppose contact with another guy's tongue is where an American boy draws the line.

I'm still not sure if this is normal behavior in Barcelona or just a custom among this group of "gay" European friends.

After four nights in a row of discotecas this weekend, I have decided that it's generally hard to tell if the chicos are gay or not. The most attractive, well-dressed ones are, of course, usually gay, as is the rule in America. But seeing a guapo (hot guy) dancing with other chicos does not provide conclusive evidence that they are gay.

And then, of course, there are the American guys in our group who are most obviously gay but in denial, which is a confusing situation on the other side of the spectrum.

If a guy dresses gay, talks gay and hangs out with a bunch of girlfriends he isn't attracted to, he is gay. If he were Spanish, he'd be out of the closet, or he could still claim to be straight and grind with any other chico in the discoteca.

Yvette Scorse is a staff columnist. She is studying abroad in Spain.

[MikefromOhio]

ohh...

LOL

well she's 23 oer 24 and right within range LOL

[najida]

Ohhhhh hun,

Just imagine!

Really, it was cute, loved to dance and looked like sin on the hoof.

OK, not one thing happened, but it was fun.

[pissant]

Heck, even 17 is in your range. LOL

[pissant]

Dancing guys are VERY difficult for me to want to imagine. LOL

[MikefromOhio]

yeah LOL, but more in the potential range than the actual target range ya know....

[pissant]

Your target range is the same as mine: Wife.

[MikefromOhio]

LOL

yep

[ValerieUSA]

They sound like the German guys my son described to me. The German girls really go the American men there. Must be because there are no German men.

[pissant]

Ouch Val. Hope no hessians are reading this thread! LOL

[ValerieUSA]

I think he, and this writer, are judging the species by the specimens found in discos and nightclubs, and perhaps that isn't fair. There may be young German men who have other interests.

[pissant]

Truth be know, I've know plenty of european manly men. LOL

[SaltyJoe]

The evidence is overwhelming. Furthermore, everyone new that Nazis were homosexuals back then, but they failed to teach the following generations of that fact.

Now, every time I recall a WW2 or post-WW2 movie (like Exodus and how a European Jew confesses to his comrades that the Nazis raped him in a concentration camp) or even spoofs of Nazis (like in the Blues Brothers when the Illinois Nazis are plummeting to their deaths and one declares to the leader, "I always loved you."), it makes it quite clear that the world knew but failed to understand how serious the evil is.

[Eurotwit]

Not me...

If you come to Oslo, I'll ask you for a dance :-)

[John O]

michael douglas' previous girlfriend. I don't know if the picture rule applies to ugly people too and don't want to take chances. Initials M.D.

[fanfan]

Although Dan isn't uptight about the European man dancing, the ear licking went a little too far for him

ROFLOL

[TradicalRC]

phobia means fear. It is not fear that keeps 98% of guys from acted thusly. It is distaste, I'm guessing.

Please remember that this term was not coined by a psychiatrist or psychologist: it was coined purely for culturo-political purposes: it gives feverish leftist deviants the veneer of scientific respectability.

[son of caesar]

poor little confused yvette is studying in spain. this wench needs some good mother type of education. sheesh. note to all here, if you dance with other men, you are gay, get it? good. btw, yvette, since the tone of your article implies in an obscure way that you might like carnal fun with these guapo spaniards, just know that this is how women usually get aids, enjoy honey.

[mistress_of_tantra]

:D

[pissant]

Gay nazis. What a life. LOL

[pissant]

LOL. Just don't ask to spoon!!