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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16
Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)


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To: truthluva

"pimps" rent or sell women.

they need to advertise to their clients for rent or sale purposes......a variety of blackmail for cash or other purposes is also within the realm of possibility as a result of these pics/tapes.


402 posted on 08/27/2005 5:40:45 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I said 'blackmail' above....but I neglected to include "extortion'


403 posted on 08/27/2005 5:45:54 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: truthluva
Sooo...who's buying these tapes?

I was asking myself that same question yesterday. I would guess the internet is used to distribute this kind of stuff around the world (as opposed to a particular audience). In this sordid business, that has grown at sickening rates, pictures have been replaced by instant access to videos and live "shows."

So I ask myself, what were the Kalpoes really doing on the computer that night?

404 posted on 08/27/2005 5:46:15 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Malichi

Hey Malichi,

Do you know this guy...he's in your neck of the woods:

http://www.kingdomfoundation.org/pages/163601/


405 posted on 08/27/2005 5:48:57 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dolphy

maybe momma was directing the "shoot" and snatch from the computer, after learning Natalee had been successfully "carved out" of her group at 1:00am?


406 posted on 08/27/2005 5:51:44 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Dolphy

You make a good point. Could be Deepak was 'touching base'. This would be too hot to upload now, though. At least in my opinion. Wonder what sites, emails, chat rooms were accessed that night?


407 posted on 08/27/2005 5:51:54 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Vn,

What do you think about snuff films...real or myth?


408 posted on 08/27/2005 5:52:53 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; All

Native Lingo at SM just verified that Garrick Lacle of C&C's is related to Tito.


409 posted on 08/27/2005 5:55:09 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva

I expect they exist.....every kind of freak imaginable exists....


410 posted on 08/27/2005 5:56:08 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: TexKat; All

According to Native Lingo at SM Garrick Lacle is Tito's brother.


411 posted on 08/27/2005 5:59:29 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva

.....every kind of freak imaginable exists....

remember Uday Hussein/sex/violence/murder?


412 posted on 08/27/2005 6:00:06 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Yeah I remember that scum.


413 posted on 08/27/2005 6:13:11 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: TexKat; All

Transcribed by a SacredMonkey:

http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?p=153787&bypass=153787#153787


"sunmoonstars wrote:
Geraldo on Heartland

Relevance to the NH case:

If JVDS & Kalpoe brothers are arrested and convicted of raping the 14 yr old, they will be in jail for a very long time. The investigators on the NH case will have plenty of time to find out what if anything they did to NH

Reporter: Do you expect Joran to be charged in this?

Geraldo: If you ask me to be a betting man, I bet eventually this will touch Joran in a big way. As I said at the top of the show, we have always heard Joran was involved in this porno tape in a very intimate way."


414 posted on 08/27/2005 6:14:50 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68; truthluva

I know we are speculating about how and where these pictures/videos were distributed but wouldn't LE have known about this activity since seizing VDS and Kalpoe computers? I mean they even took AVDS camera, they had some inkling to something it seems. Did it really take an underage girl charging rape for them to take action?


415 posted on 08/27/2005 6:16:18 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Malichi; TexKat; All

http://www.kingdomfoundation.org/pages/163601/


EXCEPTS from the above website:

Evidently, the stories about Joran and others putting drugs in girls drinks in order to have sex with them and/or to manipulate them into participating in "gang-bangs" and pornographic photo sessions are true. Joran has reportedly bragged about his drugging and "scoring" to his peers.

I believe there will be more arrests, especially of other members of "The Pimps" group, possibly Colombian Jaime Carrasquilla, Giliam van der Straaten (son of Aruba's former top cop, Joran's Godfather) and even Joran's younger brother Valentinjin van der Sloot...and some of their friends, including deejay Steve Croes and some of the other employees of Carlos & Charlie's...IF the Dutch authorities and Aruba officials truly believe that "no one is above the law." And I also expect Paul van der Sloot will be re-arrested and officially charged.

But what about reputed drug dealer Lorenzo van Rijn? What role, if any, did he play in this tragedy? I think that Lorenzo will be arrested and charged with crimes, too.

What about Michael Posner at the Excelsior Casino? The Posner Group reportedly owns hotels and casinos on Aruba, Curacao and throughout the Caribbean. Is Aruba's Michael Posner the same Michael Posner that is an Associate of the Chicago "Outfit?" Is he still on parole, and is he still doing "business as usual?"

Do Posners still own businesses in Miami, Florida? If so, is that why Paulus van der Sloot, soon to be without judge-in-training income, recently visited Miami?

Or was Paulus' Miami visit in direct relation to the "disappearance" of Natalee Holloway and his currently imprisoned primary "suspect" son Joran? Did Paulus schedule a Miami meeting to arrange financing for son Joran's defense? Or was Paulus possibly summoned to Miami to discuss a quick resolution to this case? Some special interests would like the FBI, other investigators and the media gone from Aruba, so business as usual can get back to normal again.

Is it true that Joran van der Sloot has a line of credit at the Excelsior on Aruba and possibly in other casinos, and is Joran really a drug dealer or runner for Ponser? Could that be why Joran has so much money and/or that line of credit? He gets a lot of money and credit from somewhere. Could Joran van der Sloot, who reportedly is an amateur gambler and loses often, be playing and losing big to help the Posners launder money? And is Dutch pappa Paulus van der Sloot in on the laundering scheme, too?

And what happened to that Excelsior Casino Manager who "vanished" about the same time that Natalee Holloway "disappeared?"

Some fishermen reportedly saw what they thought was an Isuzu on the beach near the Marriott early Monday morning, May 30. The "Isuzu" could have actually been Paulus van der Sloot's Mitsubishi SUV, helping move a seriously ill or injured Natalee from the beach to the van der Sloot home or Natalee's body from a shallow grave near the Fishermen's Huts to dispose of it somewhere or someway that would make it much more difficult or even impossible to find.


416 posted on 08/27/2005 6:19:04 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: Dolphy

You have to consider how much time went by before the computers, etc, were seized. Plenty of time for a computer whiz to remove many things. It just depends on how good the computer whiz is at cleaning up a pc.


417 posted on 08/27/2005 6:21:30 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: TexKat

I am glad to see these threads. What has happened to this child, and she is just a baby to me, is so sad. This is every parents nightmare as we send our children off on all kinds of school trips.

The high school my daughter attends has changed the child to adult ratio from 15 to 1 to 10 to 1 after the NH story.


418 posted on 08/27/2005 6:24:20 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (War, 33% yes, 33% no, 33% undecided, so began the American Revolution.)
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To: Dolphy

"....wouldn't LE have known about this activity since seizing VDS and Kalpoe computers....."

2 caveats/possibilities come to mind

1. Back then van der Straaten was still running interference for joran

2. This stuff was more likely on freddies computer, since he has been copying and distributing it.....


419 posted on 08/27/2005 6:26:24 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: truthluva; maggief; TexKat; All
Saturday, August 27, 2005
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/

Valentijn: I'll Comment On That Junk Later
Valentijn Van Der Sloot, Joran's younger brother, updated his blog today

posted by Joranblog at 5:22 PM

420 posted on 08/27/2005 6:27:04 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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