Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 16

Various News Outlets | 8/26/05

[TexKat]

Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)

Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)

[truthluva]

That theory is sure gaining ground. It does lend some credibility to the "drugged for rape" scenario. A bartender can perpare drinks below the bartop which would make spiking a drink very easy.

If C&C's is involved I don't think it would be just one bartender. I think the owners should be looked at. Seems strange that they have a website with a thread for people to show support for Natalee, a thread to link to the reward poster...but according to Beth, they wouldn't keep the physical reward poster up in their window.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

her last hurrah on Fox was the show re the OKC Bombing, with mizz rita putting her imprimateur on the work of another woman who has been investigating it forever and in depth......last hurrah or last straw?

[truthluva]

mail back to you.

[imaketypos]

got it, thanks

[TexKat]

Has anyone posted information (an article or a link) on the meaning of these signs that the punks flashed? I don't remember seeing anything in the press about it.

As far as I know its been discussed here and other sites early on. We've looked at all the gang signs that we could find by way of google and the sign that these pimps punks display do not fit with any of the others. Perhaps it is their own created pimp sign.

[GarySpFc]

Concerning the ouija board thing, I have an interesting personal story about them.

I think you will find a majority of theologians agree the Ouija board works. I find it amusing many mock faith in God and answered prayer, but have faith in the Ouija board and the answers it provides. In one case you are communicating with God, and in the other a completely different being. Now go laugh and mock.

[Dark Skies]

TL...I have determined one thing. The Shango riddles are written in a song/play construction used in the Yoruba religion (Yoruba-Aruba...strange connection that). While Yoruba originated in Nigeria, it found its way into the Caribbean and Venezuala. Shango is of course one of the Yoruba deities.

[justche]

I keep going back to something I read early on about Beth seeing a picture of Natalie and saying "We can fix her" I'm wondering if these are the photos she was speaking of. I had thought that it was from a camera phone....

[TexKat]

This is a comment from Jaime to Locoman on Locoman's Tickle page: well e guy ta un un di mi dos miho amigonan e ta mane mi ruman anto nos tei pa otro anytime den bon y den malo corda riba e adventures nan de fefi beto & jojo kk loca hahahahahahah

Translation: well the guy is one an of my two miho amigonan the is mane my brother then we tei for another anytime in good y in bad corda on the adventures they de fefi beto & jojo kk loca hahahahahahah

And from an ex of Joran Van der Sloot to Locoman: hooooode! lolz... next time no wanta e pober mucha su cabes :P hihihi, love you ! take care!! lolz

Translation: hooooode! lolz... next time not wanta the poor child his cabes :p hihihi, love you ! take care!! lolz

[juzcuz]

Yoruba deities
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Yikes-

Googled Shango. "IT" is worshiped in Haitian Voodoo, Santeria, and magic.

Maybe there's (sex-magic Satanic) cult involved in this.. Reminds me of the case, years ago, of the Santeria cult busted in Matagoros Mexico. Young male victims were raped, sacrificed, cooked, and eaten by that cult.

[gg188]

Look at this interesting choice of words:

Caribbean Travel Tidbits:

Hurricane season is June 1 through November 30. Hurricanes do not go to Aruba, which is why we've included information about Aruba here. Aruba is deep in the southern Caribbean, only 15 miles from Venezuela. Party people will love Carlos and Charlies in Oranjestad -- well, maybe not those who partied so hard on our last cruise that they didn't make it back to the ship before we sailed.

http://www.onlinelittlerock.com/content/information/caribbean-vacations.htm

[gg188]

More CarlosNCharlies gang signs...?

http://carlosncharliesaruba.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=1&pos=47

[hummingbird]

I think I'll have to call off any further reading on that angle though...it truly makes me sick. Certainly we have seen the evil of political and religious extremists but the thought of people being connected only by their depravity is stomach turning in an entirely different way.

I don't see how the profilers, who have to get into the minds of these kind of people, are able to do it.

[hummingbird]

Help, please, Dark Skies. I've had no CAFFEINE yet and don't understand your post. Haven't been on this thread as much lately because it was really starting to get to me. It still does, but there does appear to be some "movement" in the case, so I thought I'd check it out a bit more. Shango's Riddle still intrigues.

[truthluva]

Unbelievable!!

[Dark Skies]

Wonder if the mural monkeys had peepholes where people could view the whole C&C interior?

It's just that I never thought of that, but it makes perfect sense. This place is so creepy, I want a hot shower after just thinking about what goes on down there in Aruba.

I was also suggesting Aruba is so filthy, it's enough to gross out an old street hardened PI like TJ Ward.

[Dark Skies]

HB...I meant for #298 to be addressed to you!

[TexKat]

When Beth was in the internet cafe was she giving Deepak film to be developed? Do they develope film in the internet cafe?