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Posted on 08/26/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by TexKat
Surinamese Deepak Kalpoe, 21, arrives to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Aruban police arrested Kalpoe and his brother Satish, 18, along with a third person according to government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg, saying he doesn't know if the arrests are connected to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. The two brothers had been previously detained and released. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)
Surinamese Satish Kalpoe, 18, front, gets in a car to go to court in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, Aug. 26, 2005. Two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, who had been detained and released in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway were arrested again Friday based on new evidence, officials said. The brothers were detained on suspicion of involvement, with unidentified 'other people,' in premeditated murder and rape, the prosecutor's office said. Person to the right is unidentified. (AP Photo/Farrah Boekhoudt)
LOL I should have read down farther. Anyway as long as we ALL vote.
For transcripts for Rita Cosby, Dan Abrams, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Joe Sarborough and Tucker Carlson:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/
Link to Catherine Crier Live: (I couldn't find her transcripts there, though)
http://www.courttv.com/onair/shows/crierlive/
For Nancy Grace transcripts:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ng.html
For Larry King transcripts:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/lkl.html
For Aruba Getagrip's translation of Aruba newspapers:
http://getagripmonkey.blogspot.com/
For Amigoe.com in English:
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
For Aruba Today.com:
http://www.arubatoday.com/week/friday/
Shebacal, sorry I wasn't clear about Cathrine Crier. She was on Rita Cosby's show, not her own show. I've been trying Rita's transcript link and it will only give me the intro. I don't know if it's my old computer and dail up service failing me or if Rita's transcript isn't complete.
Would someone else take a look and see what you get?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9662344/
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for Oct. 10th
Updated: 11:58 a.m. ET Oct. 11, 2005
And for the latest on the case, let‘s go to the author of a number of books, her second big book, this one is called “Contempt: How the Right Is Wronging American Justice.” Court TV anchor and my friend, former judge and prosecutor, Catherine Crier. And also joining us on the phone tonight from Aruba is Ruben Trapenberg. He is a spokesperson for the Aruban government.
Catherine, let me show you this. This is just a quote out of the statement. Here it is, late in the day on Friday, and they put out suddenly this statement. Doesn‘t seem like there‘s any big development in the case. Let me show a quote. They essential say, “The investigation is still ongoing. The team is searching for new leads that may help solve the case. The investigation that has been done until now is being revised and evaluated.”
What do you make of all of this?
CATHERINE CRIER, COURT TV ANCHOR: Well, we all know about Friday afternoons. That‘s when you issue anything when you don‘t want the press to pick it up.
COSBY: That you want to get buried.
CRIER: Absolutely. And secondarily, I‘ve got plenty of leads for them. Let‘s just charge them with rape. We‘ve got their own words to confirm that particular felony.
COSBY: Why do you think they have not charged them with rape?
CRIER: I‘d like to know the answer to that question. I don‘t know.
And I keep saying politics, politics. Please don‘t let it be that.
COSBY: Let me bring in Ruben Trapenberg. Ruben, you can maybe answer
this for us. Why not charge them with rape? You have Deepak Kalpoe
announcing in his own words that they all had sex with her. You also have
on the other hand, you have Joran and his statement that we heard from Beth Holloway, saying that she was going in and out of consciousness. Those two together sound like someone who did something against her will.
RUBEN TRAPENBERG, ARUBAN GOVERNMENT SPOKESMAN: Could be, Rita. I am not the legal expert here, so I‘m not going to go into details of the case. One good place to check is the FBI. They‘ve been here with our local authorities since day one. And the reason that they put out that statement is that because people have been going around, unfortunately, saying that nothing is being done and calling for a boycott and because nothing is being done. And that‘s why the statement was released.
COSBY: But what is being done? Give me some specifics because a lot of people think the statement, as Catherine was just saying, is sort of a gratuitous, Let‘s just throw it out there to try to preempt a boycott.
TRAPENBERG: Again, I‘m—I‘m we‘re not the ones doing the investigation. There is an investigative team, and the right person probably to talk to would be the chief general Dampe (ph). He is the one in charge on the case. Now, what has been done? Remember, way in the beginning, we had F-16s even flying in here on the island. We had teams from the FBI for many, many days on the island. We had teams from Texas, teams from all over the U.S., and local Aruba search teams checking out every rock on this island. And they didn‘t check it once, more than once. So I mean, what else can be done? What else is being done right now can only be answered by the investigative team. I don‘t have those details.
COSBY: Do you have faith, though, in the Aruban government that it‘s doing everything it can do, Mr. Trapenberg?
TRAPENBERG: Absolutely. And Catherine is saying about politics. Politics has nothing do with the legal system here, and that‘s—I don‘t know how it is in the U.S., but here—you know, our judges are not elected. They don‘t have anything to do with it. It‘s a totally separate legal entity. They do what they have to do. And as much as the prime minister tried to get involved to feel that—let them feel that they‘d have the total Aruban support—and I mean the Aruban people and the Aruban government -- but still, the government is not the one doing the investigation.
And you know, when you hear talk about a cover-up, how are you going to cover up something when you have—when you‘re working with the FBI? You know, it‘s uncalled-for.
COSBY: Catherine, do you believe there‘s politics? He said there‘s not.
CRIER: Well, he says there‘s not—they aren‘t elected judges. You‘re right, they‘re not responsible to the people, they‘re responsible to the politicians and the upper echelon and...
COSBY: So in other words, they‘re accountable to the wrong people.
(CROSSTALK)
CRIER: Absolutely. And again, you‘ve got words from these guys about
about a felony that was committed, and yet all of them are free to leave the island. We know that Joran has already left the island. As I said before he did, if I was his dad, and not if I was a prosecutor, I‘d not only have him off the island, I‘d have him out of the Netherlands. And what‘s to stop the Kalpoe brothers from doing the same? Because right now, they‘re not under hold.
COSBY: The allegation from Mr. Trapenberg sort of in the U.S., maybe it‘s a different system. In the U.S., do you think they would have been charged with rape or it would have gone in a different direction?
CRIER: At this point in time, you might have gotten a grand jury to charge them with rape, once you had the words out of their own mouths, particularly Deepak, that, in fact, she was—she was—I will say assaulted. That‘s my choice of words (INAUDIBLE) but certainly in and out of consciousness. There‘s no question but you could certainly take this to a grand jury and probably get indictments.
COSBY: How worried should the island of Aruba about be about a boycott? There seems to be this groundswell a little bit. We know that Dave Holloway, I think, is going to be going back next week to Aruba. Dr. Phil‘s been talking about this. You got a popular talk show host. Will this ever come about, or is the threat enough?
CRIER: It could be somewhat effective. I‘d rather see her go to the State Department. I think Beth Twitty ought to be up there knocking on doors in Washington.
COSBY: Do you think she will be?
TRAPENBERG: The prime minister has...
COSBY: Yes, go ahead, real quick, Mr. Trapenberg. Go ahead.
TRAPENBERG: I‘m saying the prime minister has spoken to the State Department. They have had all the support that they need.
COSBY: Do you believe that, Catherine?
CRIER: Well, I hope that‘s the case. And if nothing‘s happening at this point, or if what he‘s saying is going on, it‘s not enough, then they should keep talking to the state department.
COSBY: Well, let‘s see where this case—you know this is far from over. Both of you, thank you. Mr. Trapenberg, I do appreciate your being with us, too. Thank you, Catherine, very much
Big deal, what ALE needed to do the night of May 31st was impound Deepak's car, Paulus' cars, forensic search ALL of the Paulus property, among other things. ALE did none of that until 10 days or more later, after all evidence was destroyed. Tell us more BS, crappenberg.
TRAPENBERG: ...So I mean, what else can be done?...
How about the government not having quickly covered back up the dump hole that Dave got dug, huh crappenberg? How about the government searching Paulus' old cistern, huh?
CRIER: Well, he says there‘s not—they aren‘t elected judges. You‘re right, they‘re not responsible to the people, they‘re responsible to the politicians and the upper echelon and...
COSBY: So in other words, they‘re accountable to the wrong people.
Serious???? This Law Enforcement joke wouldn't know serious if it slapped them in the face. MURDER is NOT serious? In Aruba it depends on WHO the murderer is or WHO they are related to. These idiots DESTROYED the evidence. And they know full well WHO the murderer is. I wouldn't be surprised if they knew what happend to Natalee and where her body was disposed of. For all we know, they cremated her.
a couple of different areas that Dave has had some concerns about.
I read something about a furnace on the island capable of volcanic-like temperatures.
Oh darn, I missed Catherine C. beating up Reuben????? Sheesh, was that yesterday?
Yes I did too Sheba - that furnace, I believe, is at the Refinery. In any event, this ENTIRE case stinks to high heaven. A person would need to be STUPID and BLIND not to see the OBVIOUS COVER UP and COLLUSION and probably GRAFT as well. Aruba doesn't deserve a single US dollar.
The guy whose throat was cut worked at the furnace, where Natalee may have been cremated.
Was his murder a warning to others to keep quiet and not reveal anything they may know about Natalee?
Who was in a position to help in the coverup of the dead guy?
Also, doesn't it just make you guys SICK to listen to that little twerp Deepak calling Natalee a slut? Dressed like a slut, acted like a slut, talked like a slut, got into the car with three strange guys, and her mother calling her a goody two shoes, enough of the B.S. already"!! I thought I would come out of my skin when I heard this. I just screeched at the TV. I couldn't believe my ears. These guys are just SO guilty and so is the father. And what's worse, they have no regard for Natalee or her family - NONE.
There you go. The Cover up CAME FROM THE TOP. Even these Judges KNEW Paulus Van der Sloot. Oh I pray for a National boycott. Some here who have followed the case will NOT likely be interested in visiting Aruba either and especially not allowing their teenagers to go there. Aruba is DEFINTELY NOT SAFE.
Yes, it's a very revealing comment.
It's nice to hear that they are working together now. After all it's "their" daughter. I just wish that Dave would support the boycott. Surely he must realize it is going to take "drastic measures" to get anything worthwhile done in that God forsaken Island. Also, back atchya!!
So, it was not—it was not supposed to be due to Dr. Phil. They knew the proper chain of command.
Sounds like when Dave was in Aruba saying publicly he did not support a boycott because the investigation needed to be continued, he was personally making sure LE knew how to get the tape, while Beth was on Dr Phil Show, making sure people heard about the tape.
They (ALE) are in such a SPOT aren't they????? Writhe you cockroaches, writhe!!
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