[in hoc signo vinces]

Well...considering the "dogs of immigration hysteria" have been let out within this forum..any chance of rational objectivy I think has been canned.

So, yeah, let's mine the boder...throw government funds at a 3,000 mile 15 foot steel wall with automated gun turrets...cuz you know...every "democratic" republic needs one of them.

Honestly, I think the POTUS has taken hard look at the "illegal" immigration problem and seen a quandry...to directly, 100% solve it, (when speaking only of Mexico) he'd have to intervene in Mexico to end corruption and take away the root cause. Because, militarizing the border is just not the answer, folks...it's the true tipping point in a slippery slope nightmare.

W knows there's a problem...and he's looking for a rational solution, but that solution isnt going to be a militant one...and so he'll be criticized for doing "nothing" by some.

[chris1]

You are delusional if you think GWB's plan is rational in any sense of the word.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

W knows there's a problem...and he's looking for a rational solution, but that solution isnt going to be a militant one...and so he'll be criticized for doing "nothing" by some.

Do you know Bush called for an amnesty/guest worker program way back in 2001? Obviously he knows there's a problem it's just the solution he's seeking that has most people disagreeing with him on.

[NJ_gent]

"militarizing the border is just not the answer, folks...it's the true tipping point in a slippery slope nightmare."

What nightmare would that be? Having to pay reasonable wages to get a deck built?

I'm about as individual liberties oriented as you'll find around here, and I have no problem with National Guard troops and Hellfire-equipped Predator drones being used to secure our borders from invasion. If it were only day laborers crossing the border, I'd look to civilian law enforcement to handle the problem. The fact that we're in the middle of a war tells me that securing the perimeter might not be a bad idea.

[shattered]

I wouldn't call enforcing our country's laws a 'militant' solution to the problem!

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

... George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.

It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona...

No border control, border dissolution.
North American Community by 2010.

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html

http://www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=8102

[investigateworld]

".... and he's looking for a rational ...."

Hardly, he's had five years and his Party controls both houses of the legislature. Sounds like he couldn't find a elephant with a nose bleed on fresh snow.
Nope, Dubya has sold us out to the elites that run Mexico, just as Slickmeister sold us out to China. BOHICA folks!