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Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat
Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.
Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.
Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community
Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.
Yes, and as he bends over and grabs his ankles, he can say sock it to me Bubba.
Paul Van der Sloot is DEFINITELY dirty!! You know it, I know it, everybody following this case knows it! the Aruban officials know it and it just takes somebody with some guts to spill the beans. Of course in Aruba that could mean a Columbian necktie I guess. Somehow, a miracle is required and it still could happen.
Unfortunately for Beth and family your post seems to fit T.J.
It was "reported" by Tito, FWIW.
SM, August 03, 2005:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=741&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=brian+drugged+friend&start=560
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:33 am
O'Reilley: VDS himself has a reputation on the island but I want you to refresh our memories as to what it was.
Mansur: He's been known to have problems with anger, with anger management. He flies off the bat most often. At school, he was in a few problems himself. He's been in trouble with kids over there. He's been in trouble in places where he goes to drink. He goes to conquer girls in these nightclubs.
He uses some pretty unusual habits like dropping things in the drinks of these girls or having someone else do it. His whole behaviour is that of a kid that is completel out of control.
O'Reilley: How do you know that he drops drugs in the drinks of women. How do you know that?
Mansur: Because kids that go to school with him at the ISA, he has bragged about this with them. So they have been informing us of all of this, so that's how we know it - because he's been bragging about it at school.
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:35 am
DT wrote:
I don't have the exact quote, but I can paraphrase it for you. Basically he said that Joran had bragged to his fellow students at ISA about drugging girls and that the paper found out through these students who came forward.
Onnimus wrote:
Did Brian or anyone ever post the email from the girl claiming Joran drugged her friend? I wonder if this girl was one of these students, OR if Jossy lurks here and gets some fresh ideas here? Just askin'...
Now we will have to see if their statements will hold water or if these are more Jossifications. Although Jug and Beth both say that they find the gardener very credible.
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Maggie if Joran has needed a therapist for Anger management and other assorted psychological disturbances (recall the comment made by the Secretary - if you only knew what his REAL problem was), then I can see him bragging at school. I too believe this boy lives in a TOTALLY UNdisciplined environment and does whatever he pleases. He's a large young man that is completely out of control. I would label him "dangerous"!! And He KNOWS that papa CAN and WILL bail him out and back him in whatever way required.
I heard tonight that the defense have not been given the transcripts and/or tapes of the text messages and cell phone records by the prosecution.
You forgot that Tito also said that PVDS was not sweating.
If these bimbettes are the schoolgirls in all those pics on Joran's site, the sex was probably consensual...especially with that Lolita in the shower with him.
Now the foreign girls Van Zandt has found--that's a different story.
Joran reminds me so much of Lenny, in "Of Mice and Men". It's hard to imagine any girl actually wanting to have sex with the ugly goon.
FWIW is right. I don't really trust Tito I'm afraid.
I heard that too TexKat but I'm wondering if there are depositions also. It's possible that these girls have not gone to the Prosecution but then WHO did they tell their stories to? Perhaps Jossy!!
Will the security guards follow Mathew's lead by filing suit against the Aruban government?
Well, we know that is an unadulterated lie. The man can't step out of a cold shower without sweating.
http://www.isaruba.com/
School Profile
The International School of Aruba is a non-profit coeducational day school enrolling about 120 students in pre-Kindergarten (Montessori program) through the twelfth grade. The language of instruction is in English and students are prepared to enter university or other higher education institutions around the world. While most of the school’s graduates go on to university in the United States or Canada, some seek higher education in the Netherlands, England, or Central or South America.
The ISA student body represents 25 nationalities including the United States (35%), Aruban/Dutch (35%), and other countries (30%). The majority of students are fluent in more than one language including English, Papiamento, Dutch, Spanish, and other world languages.
The students are drawn from families of refinery employees, tourism industry, and other private or family-operated businesses on the island.
The teachers of the school are also a mix of nationalities including North American, Dutch, Aruban, South American, and others such as Britain, Antigua, and the Philippines. They bring a wealth of experience at all educational levels from around the world overall.
Your right and besides these type of guys don't get that "smooth" without some practice. It was clearly not a shock to Daddy VDS to get a phone call from his son at 4am who had snuck out of the house to begin with. Besides the father LIED about several things and had Joran and Kalpoe brothers complete with phony alibi and instructions of how to "create" one even before the Twitty's landed in Aruba. Now WHY would they need an alibi and WHY would he counsel them "no body no case" if there was no body??? Nope, this is business as usual.
HA!! Maybe we should send papa VDS a few cases of YELLOW Gatorade to help replace all those electrolytes he's sweating out. I picked yellow to match the stripe running up down his back!!
OK, so he was getting drunk with his school chums and boinking them.
But I suspect that Clint Van Z, is talking about girls from other countries who were tourists, visiting C&C's.
Just in case you scroll by this - #862
BETH -
Just for the record, my goddaughter went on the trip - the kids think Natalee thought she was getting into a cab to go back to the Holiday Inn with Joran and everybody else, she would have never gone with those three guys and she met Joran that night.
They were there - you weren't.
You also state - Natalee has indeed made her mark in the world, but its not the one that was expected of her.
Expected of HER?? How did she make the mark in the world?
More finger pointing. By all indications, she is dead - murdered! Expected of her? Did she kill or kidnap herself?
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