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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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To: monkeywrench

I think it will.


261 posted on 08/19/2005 5:55:39 PM PDT by phoebe
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To: monkeywrench

Ezekiel 39:6—"I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD."

And . . .

Ezekiel 26:15—"Shall not the isles shake at the sound of thy fall, when the wounded cry, when the slaughter is made in the midst of thee?"


262 posted on 08/19/2005 5:58:18 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: phoebe
Ya know, I've been thinking today about that PI in the michael Jackson case. The one that had clinton ties. Thug tactics. Once he was arrested a couple more children came forward. I think if PVDS is rearrested, the truth might start finding it's way out.

Jossy is now saying to lkook for the kalpoes to be rearrested next week for more questioning.

263 posted on 08/19/2005 5:59:01 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: theophilusscribe

Thank you!


264 posted on 08/19/2005 6:00:11 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Malichi

Hey Bro,
Didja get that email I sent? I sitting down on the fly with a 40 in my hand. Got a couple of Yo's coming by on a big caboose, I never get in trouble and don't need an excuse it's TCBCCR.

Thought I would grace you with a little street talk on the jim jam.

I was thinking on the squeeze Urine, him being 17 at the commission of the crime. This reminds me of the street gangs tactics. Send in the younger member to off someone, due to the light sentence because of their to age(Same concept).

The MF's (Might Forgets') are going to walk, dutch law is the joke of the century. I think the ALE should write a book titled," How to subvert justice for dummies."

In my first life I was a priest,
NSNR-CASOTL






265 posted on 08/19/2005 6:03:44 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: monkeywrench

Thanks, monkeywrench!


266 posted on 08/19/2005 6:08:31 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: Malichi; Andy'smom; NCjim; Deguello; LegalEagle61; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; ...
From SM:

NicotineFit wrote:

Arlene Ellis S is saying on Nancy Grace possibly J will be charged with 'sexual misconduct with an unconscious person' - wondering if anyone else is listening to this or has heard this

267 posted on 08/19/2005 6:24:24 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: monkeywrench

yeah, I think you are soooo right on that.

It wouldn't surprise me that if old Pops days as a judicial "Whatever" clerk or something, that he may have had access to court documents and has blackmailed a few people. Who knows what skeletens some people have in their closets down there? I think Pops used this to shut them up, enlist their help and all to protectd his spoiled brat of a kid.

Yes, the similarities between him and that PI are striking, you are correct.


268 posted on 08/19/2005 6:25:05 PM PDT by phoebe
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To: TexKat
Arlene Ellis S is saying on Nancy Grace possibly J will be charged with 'sexual misconduct with an unconscious person' - wondering if anyone else is listening to this or has heard this

Well I guess that is better than assault with a dead weapon...

269 posted on 08/19/2005 6:26:17 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: monkeywrench
it puts the family in a very difficult position

Do you know if this means Joran's family or Natalee's family?

In six months Joran's family will be back to happily living their disfunctional lives, while Natalee's family will never recover.

270 posted on 08/19/2005 6:26:44 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: phoebe

....and I realize not only is my typing disatrous tonight, but my spelling it right out in left field!!!!!! YEEKS


271 posted on 08/19/2005 6:27:57 PM PDT by phoebe
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To: Malichi; Andy'smom; NCjim; Deguello; LegalEagle61; sissyjane; antceecee; ruoflaw; Mare; cyborg; ...

Mai Martinez WBRC reporter on Hannity and Colmes stated that ALE prosecutors stated that they did not interrogate Joran yesterday and today. They stated that they are looking at other things that may have something to do with this case, but did not say what these other things are.


272 posted on 08/19/2005 6:28:55 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: presently no screen name
Absolutely... we a learning a great deal about the Islands... Thanks to Beth!
273 posted on 08/19/2005 6:30:40 PM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: grizzfan

Good Question.

I wonder if Joran does go free, what his life will be like? I hope he is repaid in kind.

I would think his family would have to leave that happy little island.

and, so sad for the Holloway/Twittys. My heart breaks for them.


274 posted on 08/19/2005 6:32:31 PM PDT by phoebe
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

YOU DON"T MESS WITH TEXKAT. She speaks for all of us.


275 posted on 08/19/2005 6:35:26 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: phoebe

I suspect the VDS's will leave Aruba shortly after Sept. 4th.


276 posted on 08/19/2005 6:35:39 PM PDT by besafe05
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To: presently no screen name

Salutations From Bama PNSN,

I saw on TV the travel channel, how the dutch and their society have evolved. They are in the early 60's generation with cafes that have drugs on the menu.

They are destined to fall and I am sure the mooselems will take care of them. The only hope for Holland is to be graced with a cobalt bomb drop.

A thousand years later maybe, just maybe, they might get their act together. Their culture and lifestyle are commensurate of Sodom & Gomorrah.

If the bomb doesn't get them, then the aids virus will. Liberalism breeds death and destruction, so Holland you are up.

"A country that abandons God, is destined to destruction."

For God and Country,
NSNR-CSAOTL


277 posted on 08/19/2005 6:36:17 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: TexKat
They stated that they are looking at other things that may have something to do with this case, but did not say what these other things are.

Hmmm after all this time they are looking at other things...must be that laid back happy island Manana time...maybe they will re question the angel bros, deepak and satish..three weeks after the gardener surfaced...

278 posted on 08/19/2005 6:37:08 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Andy'smom

Roger that!!!! "Top of the evening" to you Andy's Mom.

Just a poor cultured farmboy,
NSNR-CASOTL


279 posted on 08/19/2005 6:42:24 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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From SM:

Shelly wrote:

bestbuddy wrote:

Shelly,

Id like to see the Lion King of Aruba!

Here is the site:http://www.rpmaruba.com/ Click on Contact to see a bigger picture. I guess this is Mr. Tiel's nickname??

I find this very interesting:

Mr. Hubert "The Lion King" Tiel not only works for RPM Motorsport News in Aruba but he is also a (Redactor Deportivo) which means (Sports Editor) for "Diario" http://www.diarioaruba.com/diamars/staff/

Then I find this:

As far as a warning. Funny you mention that as I had said eariler. The editor from the Diario newspaper was on fox and made the comment about Natalee being held by a drug group moved around. Which I thought what an idiot if that was true he just fired his informant. Then within 24 hrs a guy ends up dead. No idea if there is a tie but found it interesting.

(This no doubt would be Rene Van Heyningen--the decapitated man they are talking about)

Isn't Jossy's publication the one that said early in the investigation that a woman resembling NH was spotted in a rushing car in Venezuela? How does that reconcile with their story at the time that Joran admitted she was dead and now this witness that they've known about for a while. Looks like the Diario is a fantasy paper, and the Arubans are living in a fantasy of their own.

No, that little tale never got near Jossy's paper in print. A reporter named Herbert something or other called in live to Fox News and reported that. It was later explained that Herbert did in fact have a little drinking problem and was believed to have been intoxicated. Herbie did this all on his own. Jossy knew nothing about it until after the call I am sure. I wonder if Herbert still works at the paper after that one. And once again, imagine what the people in the car must have thought as well.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/natalee_hollowa_72.html

I wonder if the tale about a little drinking problem and Herbert or Hubert being intoxicated was just a cover up because he was telling something close to the real truth (he must not have been too drunk to dial the numbers). Evidently, this guy still works for Diario since his name is still listed on the site....we should also remember if he was drinking when he called in that alcohol sometimes works like a truth serum....a person will tell all kinds of secrets that they shouldn't.

There is no Herbert that works for Diario so they have to mean Hubert.

Has anybody heard from this Tiel guy? This is interesting

280 posted on 08/19/2005 6:43:45 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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