Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15

Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

[demkicker]

I am pleased to inform you I take NO meds, and I have a very full and diverse life, unlike many here who spend all their life, 24/7 pretending to be investigating and solving a crime based on rumors and media speculation.

You are a pathetic malcontent who can only get pleasure irritating others. If you have such a "full and diverse life", please go back to it and leave us alone, disruptor.

[Dark Skies]

I also recall Beth's comment early on that she knows Natalee was at the vdS home.

And then there's that eerie phone message on Beth's phone, possibly from Nat, saying something to the effect of "I don't know these people."

[cherry]

" in-breeding. Fathers Day, must be the most confusing day in Aruba"

OMG......that is too funny, and sadly, so true......

they need a better gene pool down there...

[maggief]

I think Natalee was targeted. The HI dealer, who's flown the coop back to NL, may have given the signal to JvdS, (and PvdS?). Who the dealer was working for and to whom the pics were peddled to is unknown. Maybe there's something to those Mr. Pink rumors.

[Canadian Outrage]

Evenin Sweet guy!! I couldn't agree with you more. I am absolutely amazed at Beth, Dave and Jug's restraint. I honestly don't know that I wouldn't have taken things into my own hands if it were me.

And I agree, it is so obvious who the butt-kissing, word spinning, obstructors are. Aruba is a cesspool. I hope that poor, beautiful little Natalee didn't suffer for very long. Now I think it is time for these so called Dutch "specialists" to start "breaking" some of these guys - literally. Let's see how "special" they are!!

I would love to be at the Aruba airport to see which cockroaches are making a run for it right now!! CO

[hummingbird]

I don't see a 39F Montana (Montanja?) & I don't see the van der Sloots. Don't they live on Montana? Who lives at 39F?

[juzcuz]

small group of dirty old rich men on the island.
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I was reading a long time ago about a famous case in Belgium. Marc Dutroux = Infamous child murder and Satanist. Had the help of extremely powerful world politico's (included pink ballets implicating King Alfred) the case was purposely bungled by police. Lots of witness/participants died before the case was adjudicated.

[Rusty Roberts]

Yes. At first, I couldn't figure how, but as time went on, I can see why she is absolutely determined: if they have had this information, with detail linking to Natalee, is there no wonder that Beth has taken such a stand?

How godawful, to think that possibly that very night Natalee was still in that house?

It's time for Charles Croes to step up and discuss everything about that night, from his perspective.

I don't know these people. The sound of the screaming monkey.

I don't know how Beth and Dave are still sane.

[maggief]

SM:

I found an ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ, ALBERT and LILIAN REGINA who live in MONTANJA.

http://www.arubachamber.com/LC%20KLEIN%2005-06-2005.htm

[Canadian Outrage]

Thank you. I just scroll on by and don't engage in conversations because if you do enter the fray, it NEVER ENDS!!

[hummingbird]

Pardon me, maggief; I'm so behind. Who is the ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ couple?

[RGVTx]

Note that 3 a.m. is the exact time that Joran van der Sloot's (search) second call went to Deepak's cell phone (the first was 2:40 a.m.)

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Repeating an earlier post of mine...A reporter recently walked from the beach to Joran's home and it took 40 minutes. Joran's claim of walking home does not fit this time line.

[hummingbird]

I found these names on MONTANJA. (HOPE IT FORMATS A-OKAY!)


ALMONTE CRUZ-RAS ULARIA JULIANA
ALVAREZ-FLANEGIN IMELDA FILOMENA
ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ ALBERT LILIAN REGINA
ARENDS RAYMOND MAXIMILIAN
ARENDS-WERLEMAN ELAINE DEBORAH
BAROUD MOHAMMED MAAN ABDUL KADER
CROES-RIDDERSTAAT JERNEY JULISSA
DE CUBA EMILY
DUIJNEVELD EDWIN
EVERON SIOMARA MARLIN
FARO HAROLD EDWIN
FLANEGIN ANDRES MARIO
GEURTS ALEXANDER FRANCISCUS JOHANNES
HALLEY MARIE ESSELINE
HENRIQUEZ SATURNO
HILARIO ARAMIS DE JESUS
HILARIO-ROZA ELDRIDA MABELLIN
IRAUSQUIN ALVIN ANTHONY
LEEST DOMINICO
LEITO ARNOLD ALEXANDER
LOPEZ GREGORIA MARIA
LOPEZ DORADO CARLOS ALBERTO
LOPEZ DORADO- PAZ SOLANO CIELO DEL CARMEN
MADURO LYNN
MUSCARIELLO VITTORIO PASQUALE
OSBOURNE-WARD MICHELE ROSLYN
POLANCO SANCHEZ LILIANA ISABEL
RAJNHERC JOEL ROBERT
RAS EDWIN MARTINUS
ROOIJMANS ADRIAAN GERARD MARIA
RUSTVELD ELEONORE DOROTHY
TROMP ESTRELLITA MARISKA
TROMP INOCENCIO RIGOBERTO
TROMP ROSENDO FORTUNATO
TROMP-JONES CARMEN DELIA
VAN POPPEL-MARQUEZ ZULAY CRISEIDA
VINCK RICKARD ROBERT
VINCK-GUERRERO SIOMARA EMELY
WU HUAN ZHAN
WU QIAOMEI
WU WEN GUANG
WU WEN YI

[justche]

I think there is much much more at stake here. I don't for an instant think there's just a couple of teenage boys 'gone wild'. Does anyone else think it's odd the arrests came while Beth was back in the states?

[maggief]

Jossy identified the third party arrested as Freddy ARAMBATZIS. The Monkeys are speculation that Freddy may use the last name Zedan.

http://members.msn.com/?mpp=4263~7AAAAAAAAE57nchC3Yyo3scZDxXjYgKcRGcN*2nUfZLireBLlzxFYh4Q$$~7BAAAAAAAG8Yg3Cpkw1j8Vaiv2!j1ctRM1lkA!e4xRUK4$

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

this is the shango thread in the state it was on Jul 12th.....it is this post and the next three....click 'newer' to advance....

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01002&read=6937

[Dark Skies]

Does anyone else think it's odd the arrests came while Beth was back in the states?

Excellent point. And by the way, Beth looks rested and terrific. What a woman!

[hummingbird]

Ah, thanks maggief. Why do you think the van der Sloots aren't listed on Montana? Is their address a side street that crosses Montana?

[maggief]

Could they have a pic(s) of Natalee? Did JvdS, or the boys send pics to DK's computer via cell phone?

[hummingbird]

Maybe computer forensic people have found files that were thought to have been deleted?