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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


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To: Palladin

I'll look for the latest news ...

Meanwhile ...

SM:
sunmoonstars

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CC Friday

Art Wood:
I cant spell his last name...it is like Freddy Arendashi, I think he uses the name Freddy Arends too.

He is a neighbor of Jorans, as well as a close friend.


I have lots of pictures of Joran and his friends, he is in everyone of them.


2,261 posted on 08/26/2005 2:58:28 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: 1Old Pro

My guess is that Joran's prison cellmates were there for specific reasons: did he slip, does he talk in his sleep,lol?

I wonder, since there is no plea deal potential in Aruba, might there be a chance for a better prison cell (the new addition vs the old, run down)? Just thinking out loud.


2,262 posted on 08/26/2005 3:00:01 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (Aruba has a bad case of the VDS)
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To: juzcuz
I'd be looking for people/person within their circle who has a professional video type studio or equipment.

Would this be "Mr. Pink?"
2,263 posted on 08/26/2005 3:00:58 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: truthluva

LOL, true!! Gatorade to the rescue???


2,264 posted on 08/26/2005 3:01:03 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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More ... same source:

MSNBC:

Prosecutors tell us that the friends arrest was not in connection with NH disappearance, but Kalpoe brothers was


2,265 posted on 08/26/2005 3:01:19 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: stlnative
Someone had to supply Joran with the ruffies - someone was playing Joran for these homemade porn movies - someone may have disposed of Natalee's body to help Joran out because they also did not want to be found out about.

All along I have thought that Joran was more likely to be indebted to someone rather than running any kind of "business" operation. He may have thought himself a big-shot but when you're talking about the porn industry, money laundering, drug trafficking, etc. I highly doubt that a 17 year old kid is going to get anything except what he's allowed by that underworld (and teenagers don't exactly have that right resume).

I would think Joran would be quite a hire for an underworld enterprise. He has the looks to lure and a connected father to blackmail.

2,266 posted on 08/26/2005 3:03:22 PM PDT by Dolphy
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Via SM:

New Greta Wire emailed at 5:41 PM:


Update: Under the category "you can't plan in this business," I had expected to take Friday night off, but now I will be working. We have lots to report and it makes sense for me to come in off vacation since I have been steeped in the Natalee Holloway (search) story since the beginning. Here is what happened this morning:

Early this morning I got a tip: The Kalpoe brothers (search) have been re-arrested and another suspect was also under arrest. The arrest was at 6 a.m. Because rumors run wild in Aruba on this case, we wanted to get another source. We did not dare report it until we were absolutely certain.

Calls went out quickly everywhere for confirmation and our producer in Aruba (George Szucs) got busy... very, very, very busy. Armed with his cell phone, his video camera and the car, he took off to chase down the story.

We also solicited the help of investigative reporter, Tito Lacle. With "all hands on deck," our people were able to get the arrest confirmed. In fact, in short order, we had two confirmations of our original tip.

I was also told by my producer in Aruba that there would be an 11 a.m. court hearing. A very short time later, he was at the courthouse way ahead of everyone (including the parties to this investigation.) I called him on his cell several times and at one time said, "What's going on?" He said, "I am the only one here."

A short time later and well before 11 a.m. he called and told me that the Kalpoe brothers' mother had arrived. Since the producer and I have met many times with her, she was easily recognizable to him. He attempted to talk to her but she did not want to talk. This is understandable.

Needless to say, all morning long, we have all been pounding the phones. We are learning much about the other person arrested Freddy and will give you those details at 10 p.m. tonight.

What has caught my attention most is the timeline we have pieced together. From Satish's lawyer the other night on the show, we learned that someone was on the Internet at the Kalpoe residence from 2 a.m. to 3 a.m. Why did that person get off the Internet at 3 a.m.? Note that 3 a.m. is the exact time that Joran van der Sloot's (search) second call went to Deepak's cell phone (the first was 2:40 a.m.)

Stay tuned. We will have more tonight.


2,267 posted on 08/26/2005 3:03:38 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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Cont.

CC Friday

Crier: Can you tell me anything about this Freddy?

Jossy: We hear 2 versions:

The official press release that the prosecution put out did not mention him at all

People are under the impression that his arrest may be related to another case

He was arrested in the beginning with relation to this same case

There is no mention from the police in regards to this third man

Third man is a friend of them, partied with them, many pics with him

He was questioned in the beginning in regards to the Natalee case

Do you have any info as to his whereabouts the night Natalee disappeared?

Jossy: I hear his alibi is that he was with Joran


2,268 posted on 08/26/2005 3:04:46 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: demkicker

Absolutely super development!! Beth must be just so happy. Finally, something is beginning to happen. I always felt that this was a "well oiled machine". These guys had a real "system" going on. Wonder what mama Kalpoe will have to say about her "good" boys now?????


2,269 posted on 08/26/2005 3:04:55 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: hummingbird

Would this be "Mr. Pink?"
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Who's Mr. Pink? I'm not that knowlegeable about this case, yet.

Wow, this thread is sooooo long. Just think what NH threads will be like when the trial starts.... Yikes..


2,270 posted on 08/26/2005 3:06:09 PM PDT by juzcuz
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SM:

I found an ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ, ALBERT and LILIAN REGINA who live in MONTANJA.

http://www.arubachamber.com/LC%20KLEIN%2005-06-2005.htm


2,271 posted on 08/26/2005 3:07:21 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: maggief

Oh boy I don't doubt it. He must be sweating REAL BUCKETS right about now. Hopefully Anita has grabbed a clue also.


2,272 posted on 08/26/2005 3:08:20 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: bonfire
Hello, bonfire. Yeah, I go thru the 12 step program, detox, and relapse.

It's back to Detox again :)

sw

2,273 posted on 08/26/2005 3:13:26 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Canadian Outrage

SM:

Michelle Kosinski on MSNBC is saying that Kalpoe attorney believes Kalpoe arrests are based in part on other allegations involving "photos and young girls."


2,274 posted on 08/26/2005 3:13:31 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: Lizarde

Satish's Lawyer is angry is he? Tough titty!!! His client is a bad dude and not this innocent little guy he's been attempting to portray. My God is there is video, these guys are dead in the water. I wonder if their little drugging/raping gang progressed to a snuff film??? This could be a GARGANTUAN break!!!!


2,275 posted on 08/26/2005 3:14:36 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: truthluva; justche

Thanks for the info about TK.:>)


2,276 posted on 08/26/2005 3:14:53 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: maggief
Photos? Do you remember what was initially reported as being removed from Joran's house? For some reason I thought DVDs were taken but when I have gone back to various articles none seem to list any of the items.
2,277 posted on 08/26/2005 3:16:58 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: stlnative; All

I hate to think of it, but the movie 8MM keeps popping in my head.


2,278 posted on 08/26/2005 3:18:35 PM PDT by auboy
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To: Dolphy

... AvdS's digital camera, for one. I'll look in a sec.

FA arrested for selling pics of naked girls ... JM, Abrams Report


2,279 posted on 08/26/2005 3:20:32 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: Dark Skies

I'll be only too happy to owe this Prosecutor an apology!! These developments today are grreeeaaat!! With one caveat - PVDS is STILL walking around and should NOT be. However, his time of freedom "may" be coming to an end. The general consensus is however that he is SWEATING UNCONTROLABLY!! LOL


2,280 posted on 08/26/2005 3:28:17 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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