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Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat
Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.
Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.
Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community
Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.
Your tagline is very funny!
Telemundo scriptwriters are probably doing up this Aruba business right now for next season!
Who will translate from Papiamento to Spanish?
(I was a big Telemundo fan when they had it on my cable.
I'm still wondering how all those short, fat, bald male hosts get all those gorgeous girls!)
What horsepucky this is. I caught the last half of Greta when I got home and saw one of Joran's lawyers raging on and on. I guess the fine is the one that the Judge levied IF this tape is shown. A million (whatever their currency is) for each infraction!! Oooooooh MSNBC must be shaking in their boots since the jail supervisor let them in.!! As you have said, the gloves are coming off because for one thing, the heat is on. Deepak was a damn fool to be doing a drug deal at CnC where he should NOT have been anyway. It seems to me that the Lawyers for these three guys and indirectly PVDS are all starting to panic!!
<,p>Well said, Toespi.
worth repeating, LOL
"...the Lawyers for these three guys and indirectly PVDS are all starting to panic!!"
"Aruba's economy" huh? THIS is one of the biggest chips the US and Canada and other countries could play to get some freaking action here. Every single thing they do takes weeks to get going. Now they are "trying" to round up divers and the dives may start SUNDAY?????? Everything is always DELAYED, DELAYED DELAYED. I think it's deliberate but then I have thought this for a very long time now. In fact, they have proved the point over and over.
ROFLMAO keep trying...Aruba LE scr*wed the pooch on this one and the HT's are exercising their freedom of speech to get justice. Have you got a problem with the truth coming out or justice? In the USA there would be some charges of making false statements to the police, obstruction of justice, underage drinking, gambling and depending on the state maybe even statutory rape...oh yea the cops would not likely let the three off based on their phony story, a request would have been made for a consent search, they would have been separated, questioned individually, taken to the station, if consent was not given, a warrant would have been obtained to search the house their cars impound evidence, computers, clothes etc that first night...PC would have been their first lies including Joran saying he didnt know Natalee then he dropped her off and finally he had sex with her when she was incompetent to give consent..
Better check your libel and tresspassing laws..I see neither so far...
Aruba is soft on crime...Wait till you hear about their "trials" mostly just submitting papers, no witnesses, but witness statments..now how can a judge determine credibility from a piece of paper?
http://www.isrcl.org/Papers/Malsch.pdf
Of special relevance for the principle of open justice is the fact that in Dutch criminal cases, most investigation is done by the police in the pre trial stage. Findings are reported in the case file. In most cases, at the actual trial no witnesses and experts are present to be interrogated. Judges base their decisions primarily on the written reports in the case files. There is a lot of paper work in Dutch criminal cases (Malsch & Nijboer, 1999). The somewhat aloof evaluation of evidence at trials, caused by the absence of witnesses and experts, must also have an influence on comprehensiveness for the news-media and the public at large. At trial sessions in the Netherlands, very serious cases are often tried in very little time. The presiding judge summarises in a few lines the reports of interrogations of witnesses, defendants, and experts, and reads aloud only a summary of the extensive reports on the defendant’s personality that have been drawn up by various mental health experts. It is highly questionable whether the general public can fully comprehend cases that are compressed to such a minimum. On top of that, the language that is employed by Dutch legal professionals may very well not be understandable for lay people. Legal terms are not always explained in court.2 This may undermine the working of the principle of open justice to a great extent (Hoekstra & Malsch, 2002). A study on the openness of trial sessions to the public demonstrated that the mean number of visitors per case in the gallery of trial sessions is seven (Malsch & Hoekstra, 1999). From these seven, one was a reporter for a newspaper and two were friends or family of the defendant. The remaining visitors either were part of a school-class or of a group of law students who visited a trial session for educational reasons. A mean of four people per case attended out of general interest in the adjudication of criminal cases. Visibility and audibility of the process from the public gallery, unfortunately, was far from perfect. The clarity of the spoken language differed substantially among the various process participants. 2 In a number of cases, the District Court of Amsterdam has drafted the allegations in colloquial language, but this was not accepted by the Court of Cassation. See HR, 22 juni 1995, NJ 1996, 126 and 127.
Regarding PVDS - AGREED, AGREED, and AGREED again!! I am STILL waiting for this PATHETIC LE to execute a proper Search warrant on the Van der Sloot property including THE OLD WEll!! I just can't get that well outta my brain for some reason.
Yes, your statement is more accurate I agree.
You think perhaps the warden was attempting to do something that "might" get the case thrown out???? With the ABSOLUTE FUROR that would cause, they have chosen to suspend the warden!!
What I recall of Rudy Croes was Greta interviewing him in the beginning of this case and in that interview he stated that "Paulus Van der Sloot was a FAILED Judge and that he had been to the Minister's office just days earlier asking for a job"!! I have GOT to email Nancy Grace because she keeps on calling PVDS "THE JUDGE"!! He's NOT a Judge, he's a FAILED Judge. He's a FAILURE Nancy. Certainly is a failure as a father also.
Good evening friend!!
Oh my, such bluster. Besides most of your points being groundless, I would bet on no such thing. The premise of their dissatisfaction wouldn't repeat itself in this country.
And you call them damn lucky? Pay attention...all they want is to take their daughter home, they have said it repeatedly. You have a strange idea of fortune.
I agree completely. I'm betting they were disappointed the media didn't go with the three girls stories earlier...the media didn't take the bait.
So, this was arranged, and MSNBC went in thinking they were doing a background story on conditions of Aruban jails. The warden had a smile on his face the entire time.
These next two weeks, case is going to blow up in everyone's face.
no. my mistake, he used foul language. I believe there was a question asked if he had.
ROTFLMAO!! Did you hear Ted Williams say that MSNBC or the warden was "stuck on stupid"??? Ted deserves a plaque for that zinger! Sure struck me funny anyway.
Maybe hitting his mother is what the Psychologists secretary was referring to as his "real" problem. This creep is one big walking psychological problem!!
Oh for Pete's sake!! These Arubans are a bunch of CRY BABIES!! They seriously need to GROW UP!! A sanction - fine. Far as I'm concerned, these people are going to slit their own economic throats yet!!!!
I love Ted Williams. He has a way with words.
TK it may have been a stupid move but Aruba is going to end up making a stupider one. Throwing out the Media may just seriously piss off any future vacationers!! This caper can cut both ways!!!!!
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