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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 15
Various News Outlets | 8/19/05

Posted on 08/19/2005 7:02:03 AM PDT by TexKat

Profile of Natalee Holloway

Missing: Natalee Holloway participated in a trip with 125 seniors from Mountain Brook High School to Aruba in the Caribbean. In the early morning hours on May 30, 2005 Natalee was seen leaving a nightclub and getting into a vehicle. She failed to turn up Monday morning for her return flight home and she has not been seen since. Foul play is suspected in her disappearance.

Profile: Natalee Holloway was born on October 21, 1986 to Beth and Dave Holloway. She grew up in the close-knit community of Mountain Brook, a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama. She was very popular and respected by her classmates and had a reputation among peers at being very intelligent and focused on her future. She lived up to her reputation, graduating as an honors student from the Mountain Brook High School.

Extracurricular Activities: During Natalle's high school years she participated several extracurricular activities including: The American Field Service - A club which interacts with the foreign exchange students. Dorians Dance Team Future Business Leaders of America Mu Alpha Theta - Math honor society Natural Helpers - A peer based emotional support group. Outdoors Club Spanish Club Spanish Honor Society Spartan Pride - School pep group. TASC - Teens Actively Serving the Community

Future Goals: Natalee received a full scholarship to the University of Alabama. She planned to major in Pre-Med, in order to pursue her goal of being a pediatrician.


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: allamericangirl; americansweetheart; aprayerfornatalee; aruba; arubancorruption; beth; bethandjug; boringstory; boycottaruba; carloscharlies; courageousmom; daviejoneslocker; deepak; deepkrap; disappear; drugcartel; enoughwiththis; everyoneschild; fbi; generalissimofranco; ghb; greta; investigation; joran; jug; kalpoes; kalpooeys; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; stilldead
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To: rolling_stone

I heard he's back at Colegio Arubano, may have missed last year's finals, (in jail), and possibly repeating this year. Can't confirm.


1,001 posted on 08/23/2005 8:26:25 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: kcat

thanks for your straightforward and prudent responses.

I have got to believe that much of what we see or don't see from these kids is on the advice/request of the FBI.....they (the ones who I've seen, anyway) seem like a pretty decent and normal kids. Its aggravating to see some (mostly the aruban contingent and their sympathizers on the boards and in the media) twist and spin what little they have said publicly into such wild theories and stories. tks again.


1,002 posted on 08/23/2005 8:27:05 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: rolling_stone; maggief; truthluva; pamlet; presently no screen name

Did I read that the Cowpoos are in 'trouble' in Suriname for drugs?


1,003 posted on 08/23/2005 8:28:52 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

If I wanted to forever be rid of something on a hard-drive, I'd disassemble the drive and melt the discs with a torch.


and then through whats left into the ocean...

anyway I know they can usually get what's on a hard drive, my question is does anyone know how one would alter the times of the messages and would it work? I tried altering the time of an email and it worked but only on sent time not received time.....dont know about messages but it seems they would be in the hard drive of the company they were sent through..JMO...could they have been stupid enough to change the time on their computer and get caught..? I wonder since they are walking the streets ?(and nightclubs)


1,004 posted on 08/23/2005 8:30:40 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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1,005 posted on 08/23/2005 8:39:51 AM PDT by penowa (I've been Quinnoculated, have you?)
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To: Froufrou

I think TJ Ward put that information out there but has never confirmed it. He says things like "We are looking into that". Bottom line...it's still a rumor.


1,006 posted on 08/23/2005 8:41:03 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva; TexKat; pamlet; presently no screen name; Dark Skies

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: To Everyone about Natalee's Family

Natalee's family welcomes your posts . . .
your encouragements, prayers, etc. emotionally supports them . . .
Members of Natalee's family ARE seeing this website.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -[POSTED BY BAMA LADY ON SCAREDMONKEYS.COM]

Please . . . SPREAD this information . . . and the email links below . . .
to your friends . . . relatives . . . everyone you talk to . . . and . . .
EVERYONE . . . PLEASE HELP AND SHOW SUPPORT FOR THE FAMILY


NEWS !
August 22 . . . In Aruba, there is a strong, courageous young 17 year old girl who has come forward saying she was date-rape drugged and raped by Joran recently this spring. She has given the information that two other classmate friends of hers were also date-rape drugged and raped by Joran, making a total of 3 Aruban girls. She has hired her own attorney and says she is not afraid of Joran's father.

Beth stated: "we need these girls to come forward, and they need to feel comfortable, and they need to trust, and to realize that they CAN do this. I am so grateful for this. I am hoping that if there are any more girls, they will chose to do the same. I know that Natalee is not his only victim. Every person and piece of evidence is crucial because the clock has been ticking. It takes a lot of courage for young girls to come forward like this and I am very impressed that they are able to do this. These 3 Aruban girls are more difficult because they have to live on this island, and I want to make sure it (their coming forward) is done with professionalism, and that they are treated with respect and dignity."


1,007 posted on 08/23/2005 8:45:41 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: rolling_stone
I still think he is the weak link who can be broken...

I think Deepak could be broken. The look on his face last night when he was video'ed starting to go into C&C's. The moment when he realized he was being filmed.

I think he is starting to wonder if there will be cameras wherever he goes, forever.

C&C's is his hangout - now his buddy Steve Croes works there. He must have really wanted to go inside, but he looks up, sees the camera, looks like a rabbit in the road, and ducks away.

I hope he is beginning to feel haunted and maybe hunted.

I'm wondering just how the cameraman knew to be ready inside C&C's to film him. Did someone call ahead so the cameraman could be ready to film? This is very interesting to me as regards what Deepak will do when he just wants to get back to his old life.

1,008 posted on 08/23/2005 8:47:17 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Froufrou

Hope it is not another dead end. So many dead ends here.


1,009 posted on 08/23/2005 8:49:44 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Froufrou
Hey Froufrou

In Aruba, there is a strong, courageous young 17 year old girl who has come forward saying she was date-rape drugged and raped by Joran recently this spring.

Wow...where did you find that nugget?

1,010 posted on 08/23/2005 8:55:55 AM PDT by Dark Skies (" For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. " Matthew 6:21)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Hi Vn
You're welcome.


1,011 posted on 08/23/2005 9:04:51 AM PDT by kcat
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To: cajungirl; Dark Skies

Hey CG! Hey DS! Glad you're here! That was on scaredmonkeys this morning. I've been surfing like crazy trying to find the Ambassador to the Netherlands address for Fritzy. I already sent my letter last week.

I wonder how many more 'ladies' Anita VDS can find who will tell how 'sweet' her boy is? That's like Rader's ex-wife getting all their friends together to say what a nice guy he is. Easy to say, when [you] aren't the victim. [/rant]


1,012 posted on 08/23/2005 9:06:02 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: All

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166497,00.html

Tuesday, August 23, 2005
By Greta Van Susteren

EXCERPT

Likewise I don't know who summoned the polygraph expert to Aruba (search). We were told that an American lie detector expert is in Aruba and Beth Holloway Twitty (search) and others confirmed this last night. Beth said she did not ask him to go to Aruba. The polygraph can be a useful tool — but not a conclusive one. Here I don't expect it to be useful — no one has asked to be polygraphed (you can't force someone to submit) and so much time has passed with lots of interrogations that the results would be suspect. In short, I am having a hard time understanding why a polygraph expert is in Aruba on this case.

(snip)


1,013 posted on 08/23/2005 9:11:21 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs)
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To: shebacal

Wait! Now i have been on vacation and not following this story at all for about a month. Are you saying that Deepak actually had the GALL to go back to C&C's?


1,014 posted on 08/23/2005 9:18:55 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: maggief; truthluva; cajungirl; Dark Skies

Besides, polygraphs are not admissable in the Aruban court. And they are beatable. I say, get out the truth serum and shot 'em up!


1,015 posted on 08/23/2005 9:25:54 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
You are Terrific! If you get a name.. just let me know and I will follow up...

Also, I will ask about others during my conference call tomorrow AM...

This whole mess is so discouraging.. I am sure that many people feel like giving up.. but I am going on the robust strength demonstrated by Beth and the family.. also knowing full well that this type of incident cannot be tolerated in civil societies...

I appreciate all info .. and your willingness to share...
I am sure that I am in over my head on electronic messaging.. etc.. I can't seem to get a filing system that works for me.. perhaps it is too many years with a slew of terrific secretaries.. with almost 80% of my work done from home, I really miss the expertise of those folks.. so I have had to learn entirely new skills..so don't tell me that an old dog can't learn new tricks.. perhaps a good basic electronic filing class in in my future...

Thanks again...
1,016 posted on 08/23/2005 9:27:03 AM PDT by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: Froufrou

CONTACT THE MEDIA:

Dan Abrams -
abramsreport@msnbc.com
Geraldo Rivera -
atlarge@foxnews.com
Catherine Crier -
crierlive@courttv.com
Fox News Live -
Feedback@foxnews.com
John Gibson -
myword@foxnews.com
Sean Hannity -
hannity@foxnews.com
Joe Scarborough -
joe@msnbc.com
Greta van Susteren -
ontherecord@foxnews.com
Bill O'Reilly -
oreilly@foxnews.com
Alan Colmes -
Colmes@foxnews.com
Rita Cosby -
Rita@msnbc.com
Dayside@foxnews.com
Friends@foxnews.com
Larry King -
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?12
Nancy Grace -
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24

CONTACT THE NETHERLANDS:

The Ministery of Interior and the Antillis,
the Haag, Netherlands
Minister Remkes or Minister Pectold
info@minbzk.nl

The Department of Justice,
the Haag, Netherlands
Minister of Justice
voorlichting@minjus.nl

AND WRITE TO:

Dutch Ambassador to the United States
The Royal Netherlands Embassy
4200 Linnean Avenue, Northwest
Washington, D. C. 20008


CONTACT CONGRESS (U.S.A)

(in addition to your state, please also add Alabama and Mississippi)
Ala. Senator Sessions: http://sessions.senate.gov/email/contact.cfm
Ala. Senator Shelby: http://shelby.senate.gov/resources/contact.htm
Ala. Rep. Spenser Bachus: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Miss. Senator Trent Lott: http://lott.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Email
Miss. Senator Thad Cochran: http://cochran.senate.gov/contact.htm
Miss. Rep Charles W. Chip: http://www.house.gov/htbin/wrep_findrep

Contact your House of Representatives:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Contact your Senator:
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
These go to a Write Your Representative page
Select your location from list
Enter your ZIP code
Select Contact and it goes to a page where you fill out information on you.
then goes to the page where you write the email



To Contact the FBI Tip Line Call: 1-877-628-2533


AMERICA'S MOST WANTED
Your tips do make a difference. Provide all the information you can.
If you'd like to talk to our confidential Hotline specialist, call us at 1-800-CRIME-TV.


ONLY FOR A, B, C, D above and
anyone with FACTUAL case INFORMATION i.e. the where abouts of Natalee:
Please email the Holloway-Twitty family with your information.
(email address is for information ONLY, not for well-wishing)
EMAIL: Hope_For_Natalee@yahoo.com

SUBJECT: TIP INFORMATION

{Note: the FBI may be monitoring for any junk emails, inappropriate emails, or computer problems attached to this email address, and will take appropriate actions if they occur . . . FYI }



R E W A R D . . . ONE MILLION U. S. DOLLARS . . . $1,000,000
FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO NATALEE'S SAFE RETURN


REWARD . . . TWO HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS . . . $250,000
FOR INFORMATION THAT ULTIMATELY HELPS SOLVE THIS MISSING PERSON CASE.

If you have any information regarding the disappearance of Natalee Holloway,
please contact the FBI Tip Line at 1-877-628-2533.


Recompensa de 1,000,000 dolares U. S.

Para informacion que condusca a encontrar viva a Natalee Holloway
Edad:18 | Estatura: 5’4” (162.5 cm) | Peso: 110 libras (49.9 kilos) | pelo: rubio | ojos: azules

SI TIENE ALGUNA INFORMACION QUE LLEVE A ENCONTRAR A NATALEE HOLLOWAY, POR FAVOR
DE LLAMAR A EL FBI AL 1-877-628-2533


1,017 posted on 08/23/2005 9:41:30 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: Fritzy

You may not be so thankful! Bamalady has an Announcement on scaredmonkeys with lots:

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: To Everyone about Natalee's Family

* * * * * * * * * * * * LINKS are at the END of this Post * * * * * * * * * * *

The FBI has just announced August 20th that there have been several credible tourists that have now come forward reporting that they were sexually assaulted while in Aruba recently. But for the Grace of God, this could be one of our loved ones and us going through all of this in a foreign country needing help. For your sake, for Natalee's sake, and to prevent any other girls/women and their families from this horrible experience,
please come forward if you, or anyone you know . . .

A). HAVE been a TOURIST to Aruba and have been approached by ANYONE involved in this case while on that island, or have seen any of them with other TOURISTS, etc., your information could help this family . . .

B). Have been a TOURIST to Aruba during the SAME time period that Natalee was on the island, and may have seen anything suspicious while there that week; or if you were at the casino or Carlos n Charlie's when Natalee was there, your information could help this family . . .

C). LIVES in the USA and have had known contact on the internet(email, chat, etc. ) with Joran, the Kalpoes, or anyone else involved in this case, your information could help Natalee's family . . .

D). Have been a TOURIST to Aruba and have had something similar (drugged, sexually assaulted, etc) happen to you while on that island, or you know someone who did, and are willing to come forward and tell all your information to help this family. . .

The smallest of information that you may think is un-important,
may be the clue, along with other clues they have,
that helps solve the case.

Linda Allison (Dave's sister) is representing the family in the above search effort.
Please contact her ONLY if you have information related to the above,
or to the actual location of Natalee (see link below).
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Several news shows have stated the immediate need to show our continued support for Natalee's family.
The family needs OUR help to find Natalee, and find out what happened to her.

E). People are needed to EMAIL and WRITE to the following, asking for more help and showing continued support for Natalee's family.
They need:
the media coverage so that this case will not fade away, never be solved, and Natalee never be found. There are many other missing people, but this missing girl has some unusual circumstances which everyone knows. Maybe we can also help other families find their missing.
the investigators to interrogate ALL the people possibly involved in this case (except maybe the 2 security guards), starting with:
the father; the Kalpoes; Lorenzo van Rijn and all the people that gave him an alibi; all the employees working that night at CnC's; the DJ, Croes; all the employees of the casino(s) where Natalee went to; former Chief van der Straaten; the headmaster of the International School; etc.
to have the equipment, financial backing, manpower and co-operation they need for the landfill, and other places, to be totally and completely searched.
for any witnesses to know they will not be deported, or disappear, or worse. People with information need to know they will be safe to come forward and tell what they know, without repercussions.
to let those involved, including the Aruban and Netherland authorities, know that the people in the world DO STILL care about this case - and are closely watching !

INSTEAD OF US JUST SITTING AND WATCHING . . .

LET US ACTIVELY HELP THE FAMILY!

Copy and Paste the following email addresses to your emails
You can add a comma , then space between the links to send your email to several people at the same time.

CONTACT THE MEDIA:

Dan Abrams -
abramsreport@msnbc.com
Geraldo Rivera -
atlarge@foxnews.com
Catherine Crier -
crierlive@courttv.com
Fox News Live -
Feedback@foxnews.com
John Gibson -
myword@foxnews.com
Sean Hannity -
hannity@foxnews.com
Joe Scarborough -
joe@msnbc.com
Greta van Susteren -
ontherecord@foxnews.com
Bill O'Reilly -
oreilly@foxnews.com
Alan Colmes -
Colmes@foxnews.com
Rita Cosby -
Rita@msnbc.com
Dayside@foxnews.com
Friends@foxnews.com
Larry King -
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5.html?12
Nancy Grace -
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form5c.html?24

CONTACT THE NETHERLANDS:

The Ministery of Interior and the Antillis,
the Haag, Netherlands
Minister Remkes or Minister Pectold
info@minbzk.nl

The Department of Justice,
the Haag, Netherlands
Minister of Justice
voorlichting@minjus.nl

AND WRITE TO:

Dutch Ambassador to the United States
The Royal Netherlands Embassy
4200 Linnean Avenue, Northwest
Washington, D. C. 20008


CONTACT CONGRESS (U.S.A)

(in addition to your state, please also add Alabama and Mississippi)
Ala. Senator Sessions: http://sessions.senate.gov/email/contact.cfm
Ala. Senator Shelby: http://shelby.senate.gov/resources/contact.htm
Ala. Rep. Spenser Bachus: http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Miss. Senator Trent Lott: http://lott.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.Email
Miss. Senator Thad Cochran: http://cochran.senate.gov/contact.htm
Miss. Rep Charles W. Chip: http://www.house.gov/htbin/wrep_findrep

Contact your House of Representatives:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Contact your Senator:
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
These go to a Write Your Representative page
Select your location from list
Enter your ZIP code
Select Contact and it goes to a page where you fill out information on you.
then goes to the page where you write the email


1,018 posted on 08/23/2005 9:42:15 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: rolling_stone
DK... back at CnC's...I would have been glad to give him a free ride....we could stop and pick up Tony Soprano and see if Deepak could carry a tune...or at least sing a little

Good one...Maybe he hitchhiked... I wonder if DK likes deep sea fishing. I like to go out at night. It is so silent out on the water on a calm night. It can really get one thinking about life. Perhaps we could talk him into going with us.

1,019 posted on 08/23/2005 9:48:30 AM PDT by LongViewSC
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To: Froufrou

Wow! While you were posting, I was posting the same....ESP? :)


1,020 posted on 08/23/2005 9:51:25 AM PDT by toldyou
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