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To: WildHorseCrash
Go find a cosmologist and ask him. I am not a cosmologist, nor am I up on the latest science in that area. (But your question about what was there "before" time was created game me a good laugh. The question is pretty ridiculous. There was no "before" before time was created, because "before" means previously in time.)

Cute - what are your thoughts of eternity vs. time? the PhDs would indicate an ability to express yourself with a reasoned train of thought instead of quips - I don't have those lofty degrees, but I can detect a lazy/u informed evasion when I see it. I've heard the Big Bang theories that everything was compreesed to the size of an atom, when time/matter/energy did not exist, to be suddenly spewed out, creating time/energy/mass. Perhaps the term "before time" might seem simplistic to one so lofty as you, but the concept of it can't be that hard to grasp if there was nothing before the Big Bang, then that state must have preceeded it. Then the theories that figure everything will stop expanding, only to recompress and then regenerate in a new Big Bang also indicates that there was a "before".

If you want to snicker, at least take the time to justify it - that shouldn't be too much of an effort compared to the work that went into the degrees. (And I'm not making light of the effort of the degrees - I got a Bachelors in Education going to night classes and I know how time-consuming and strenuous it can be - my hat's off to you for your accomplishments in that area.)

405 posted on 08/02/2005 10:14:05 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: trebb
Cute - what are your thoughts of eternity vs. time? the PhDs would indicate an ability to express yourself with a reasoned train of thought instead of quips - I don't have those lofty degrees,
The parentheticals were meant to indicate that I was kidding about all the degrees. I do have an post-graduate degree, but only one, and not in the sciences.
but I can detect a lazy/u informed evasion when I see it. I've heard the Big Bang theories that everything was compreesed to the size of an atom, when time/matter/energy did not exist, to be suddenly spewed out, creating time/energy/mass. Perhaps the term "before time" might seem simplistic to one so lofty as you, but the concept of it can't be that hard to grasp if there was nothing before the Big Bang, then that state must have preceeded it. Then the theories that figure everything will stop expanding, only to recompress and then regenerate in a new Big Bang also indicates that there was a "before".
Not an evasion. I haven't done any reading in this area in years, so I am not up to snuff on it, beyond the very basics. You need to find some one who is conversant in the science if you want any depth to the discussion.
451 posted on 08/02/2005 10:43:04 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: trebb
Cute - what are your thoughts of eternity vs. time?

Actually there are primitive tribes in Indonesia for which there is no time. The concept does not exist for their civilization. There is no word or thought of time for their actions. They simply do what they do without having concepts or limits. No one is ever told to hurry up or finish. When they were recently discovered and someone tried to explain time to them they thought we were crazy.
507 posted on 08/02/2005 11:34:31 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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