Posted on 07/28/2005 6:57:17 AM PDT by TexKat
Previous Natalee Holloway Threads
Firefighters drain a lake, Tuesday, July 26, 2005, in Oranjestad, Aruba searching for Alabama teenager, Natalee Holloway, who vanished nearly two months ago while vacationing in the island. Edwin Comemencia, a police spokesman, confirmed that the draining of the lake across from the Marriott Hotel was part of the investigation into Holloway's disappearance but would not comment further. The draining was expected to take up to 24 hours. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)
LOL!
To you too.
There is a particular kind of woman who loves to pronounce, with great authority, that anothere woman is doing something that makes her a slut. Then they pretend that is not what they said because such behavior to perfectly commonplace. But what they do is defame other women. I have never understood what kind of bi@@@ would do that.
I guess it's cuz every time I see that smile I think "what a lovely girl", an then my heart sinks.
Background information on Aruba’s Landfill
July 28th, 2005 by Scared Monkeys -->
KerinTX is a frequent contributor to Scared Monkeys. She has a degree in Environmental Engineering and has worked with Landfill Design and Planning previously. She was kind enough to send in this description of the Aruban Landfill and then parts of her conversations with other readers. Another great example of the facinating and informative discussions that are occurring in our discussion forum.
The following is a description of landfills as given to the Monkeys, and also their subsequent questions and my answers. My opinions are based on several environmental projects which appear similar in nature to the one in Aruba.
The Aruban Landfill does meet Subtitle D regulations and appears to have all leak detection and leachate collection systems in place. In other words, this landfill would be up-to-date…not just a dumping ground. They appear to have strict recycling guidelines too.
In a landfill of this type, you would have a current “live” cell. All previously used areas would be “capped off” and closed for disposal and nearly impossible to easily dig through. (they have a solid membrane surface and then usually erosion fabic and sod on top).
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1335#more-1335
Beth on Greta....Beth pleased the hair
on tape isn't NH's.
Beth hasn't put too much thought into the
male DNA on the toothbrush.
Beth is sure the FBI will call her if they
find anything in the pond....Beth doesn't
seem too interested in the pond.
Beth is just concentrating on the 3 being on
the beach w/Natalee.
Apparently Beth didn't get anything out of Deepak
today.....[sorry....I missed that. Must not have
been much of a meeting...]
Beth [if she could question PVDS], would want to
know the "details" of what happened that night.
Beth is discouraged. Just looking forward to next
Tuesday. [???? What's going down on Tues.??]
"omg....you did have a close call....wow....."
yeah, but i was so much more fortunate than so many others, it was just so sad, deejay.... (lady deejay) hehe!
"Seeing schumer & clinton w/GW, at the WTC a few
days after.....I got sick to my stomach
yeah, wouldn't it be perfect if there was such a thing as a "FULL OF SHIT" meter that could just follow behind people?? it would explode with those two's load...
I don't understand them, either. I think in this case, some of them are trying to help the 4 liars, though.
I'm praying they find something in the pond, but I have my doubts too. I was thinking they had put her in the ocean, but wouldn't they have worried that her body would have floated to shore? There would have been no guarantees that it wouldn't have.
I still think that the father of Vandersloot knows something and THAT makes me very angry too.
Equusearch at Landfill and Pond Tomorrow
July 28th, 2005 by Red -->
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1336
They are planning searching the pond and the landfill in the morning.
Hmmm, I should have considered that ... maggiebluffs.
Innocently, I chose a screen name with other connotations and stubbornly lived it down for years now.
*sigh*
See yall tomorrow, I am falling asleep as I post. Perhaps the pond will be drained, perhaps not.
GS likely was suspended for 24 hours, but after that she will be reinstated. I know one man who is far more disruptive than GS, and he was reinstated.
Evening Natalee Holloway Update
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2005/07/afternoon_natal.php
[Latest info is at bottom of post.]
Here's a quick update via email from the intrepid and 'right to the point' reader, HarryTho:
First, outside of Arlene Ellis-Schipper, Ruben Trappenburg may be the most professional representative of the Aruban government. I would believe anything that he says. It is good that your blog quotes Ruben.
Second, concerning the Racket Club visits by Joran and his friends. Joran is a member of the Racket Club. His visits there are understandable. As for the lost shoe angle, since the car has been sighted near the Racket Club, beginning with the 28th of May, it is quite possible that the shoe was lost earlier and has nothing to do with Natalee's disappearance. Additionally, TJ Ward admitted on Fox News to be working (as an agent) for the Dairio newspaper. Despite his professed allegiance to the Twitty's, Ward is essentially a spokesperson for Josie Mansur. Accordingly, representations by Ward, promoting Josie Mansur's exposes, should be taken as such. He is being paid to represent Josie Mansur. Naturally, his comments have to be taken in that context.
Third, as an addition, little is being revealed about the follow up investigation into the comments made by Police Chief van der Stratten to Laura Allison, concerning the lead of an eyewitness to an accosting of Natalee along the shoreline between the Marriott and the Holiday Inn. This is the lead, I believe, that links Natalee to Venezuela.
Fourth, little is being reported about the male DNA found on Natalee's toothbrush. If the toothbrush was in her room, it would seem to redirect the investigation to the Mountain Brook teens. As I am to understand, this is the only DNA evidence obtained form the forensic laboratories in the Holland and the USA.
Dan at Riehl World View, posts that Diario is reporting that Natalee's body has been found, although Dan seems to doubt it and writes that he has been unable to confirm the Diario report.
From Scared Monkeys: Natalee's body has NOT been found, AND Natalee will not be found in the pond that police and fire brigade are draining. They say that for the following reasons:
– The Police have already searched the area
– Texas Equusearch has already searched the area
– The Dutch F-16 Jets have already searched the area
– Four to six weeks ago there wasn’t any pond there, as the majority of the water that is there came from the hurricane that passed over the island.
Sounds reasonable to me
8:15 PM Update: Another HarryTho summary:
Ruben Trappenburg confirms the AP report on the FBI's negative results on the duct tape and hair. In the interview by Fox News, Ruben states that new witness that claims to have seen Joran and the Kalpoes is a South American and seems credible. My question, after so many days, how sure is the witness that the day he saw Joran and Kalpoes was the very day that Natalee disappeared? With other reports of seeing the car on many days prior to the day in question, he could be wrong on the day.
Dr. Cyril Wecht, coroner, proposed some interesting theories about how Natalee could have demised by falling into the water and asphyxiating. Currents around the island of Aruba disprove his theory: anything buoyant, falling into the ocean, would be returned to the shore. However, he details how Natalee's body would have been devoured by sea predators and crustaceans by now. Interestingly, he seems to hint at a self-inflicted demise. More interestingly, no one has discussed, publicly, the reason for Natalee increase in weight from her 3 May 2005 prom picture and her pictures taken in Aruba. One estimate was a 10% increase in body weight. I believe that it is safe to assume that Natalee was under some form of pressure in order to gain weight so dramatically.
Dr. Casey Jordan, criminologist, believes Natalee's body is on land, since it has not washed ashore. Wecht disproves her contention. Jordan's entire position centers around the conflicting testimony of the three kids.
Scared Monkeys has evening posts - They are planning searching the pond and the landfill in the morning. Also, some background information on the landfill in Aruba.
More coming soon ...
Posted by Hyscience at July 28, 2005 03:23 PM
Then why wasn't she found lying on the beach where he says he left her? Why all the different stories?
Sure he's a bigshot to his friends during daylight but at night with a dead girl things change...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, I had a sudden "Johnnie Cochran" moment for some reason...
The mob knows how to make good waterproof cement that doesn't float....about 50 miles offshore would do it...
I do recall a case on TV where some fishing boat or diver found a body that was just a skeleton wrapped in chains or such..the guy had a Rolex and the FBI traced its serial number back to the owner and eventually made a conviction! Persistence, something that would probably be lacking should something bad happen to the 3 amigos...somehow I don't think there story would be on the news everynight trying to find out what happened to them..maybe a week then on to a new political scandal...
Long day and past my bed time. Night all.
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