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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 10
Various News Outlets | 7/28/05

Posted on 07/28/2005 6:57:17 AM PDT by TexKat

Previous Natalee Holloway Threads

Firefighters drain a lake, Tuesday, July 26, 2005, in Oranjestad, Aruba searching for Alabama teenager, Natalee Holloway, who vanished nearly two months ago while vacationing in the island. Edwin Comemencia, a police spokesman, confirmed that the draining of the lake across from the Marriott Hotel was part of the investigation into Holloway's disappearance but would not comment further. The draining was expected to take up to 24 hours. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Heated Discussion; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; joran; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; twitty
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To: pamlet

What's the big deal over this? There are many cases of kidnapping, murders, missing, and yet this one gets international news. For a while every news station only had stuff about this case. It's just one person. Oh, well. Geuss it was a slow news day when it started.


21 posted on 07/28/2005 7:25:51 AM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: TexKat

Yes, TK, it's much appreciated that you keep this going, while we wait to see justice brought forth for Natalee.


22 posted on 07/28/2005 7:25:57 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Andy'smom; antceecee; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggief; Fritzy; truthluva; ...
Joran to court - Amigoe.com

ARUBA – This morning was the hearing of the lawsuit that the lawyers of Joran van der Sloot and of the brothers Kalpoe had instituted against the Public Prosecutor. The three suspects do not agree with the fact that the FBI looks into the file.

District Attorney Amelin Flanegin is at this moment in Virginia (USA) at the headquarters of the FBI. The FBI is watching the video-recordings of the interrogations of the suspects. Examining-magistrate Rick Smid has to decide today whether this is legal or not. Lawyer David Kock told the Amigoe earlier that involving the FBI is against the law and makes the investigation uncontrollable for the judge as well as for the defense.

23 posted on 07/28/2005 7:26:09 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: spectre

Spell check is my friend..."cybersleuth"..ugghh.


24 posted on 07/28/2005 7:27:23 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: TexKat
Thanks so much TexKat. I can't believe we're at #10!
25 posted on 07/28/2005 7:27:52 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: TexKat

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26 posted on 07/28/2005 7:27:59 AM PDT by varina davis
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To: All
Witness reports in Holloway-case - Amigoe.com

ARUBA – In the night of Tuesday to Wednesday, the investigation team in the case of the disappeared American teenager Natalee Holloway had started with the drainage of a pond near the Marriott Hotel. That happened after a declaration of a witness that reported to the police.

In order to keep the public away, employees of the DOW (public works) have cordoned off the area around the pond near the Racquet Club in the vicinity of Salia Cerca and security officials are guarding the area. According to the Public Prosecutor (OM), the pond is drained in 24 hours.

Satish lawyer, David Koch does not expect his client to be arrested again. It is very much possible according to him, that the witness was mistaken about the date or perhaps had seen other people. “We have evidence, telephone- and chatting traffic that proof that they could have never been there at that point in time.”

27 posted on 07/28/2005 7:30:24 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: spectre

I don't say much here but I am also awaiting the results of the pond search.


28 posted on 07/28/2005 7:30:29 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: TexKat
The three suspects do not agree with the fact that the FBI looks into the file.

Why? Are they afraid of having some competent people looking at this for a change?

29 posted on 07/28/2005 7:31:10 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: TexKat
Thanks TexKat,

Did I miss anything while I was in the shower?
30 posted on 07/28/2005 7:32:23 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: Ditter
Good to see you, Ditter. I KNEW you were lurking :)

sw

31 posted on 07/28/2005 7:33:16 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: varina davis

Bump.


32 posted on 07/28/2005 7:33:18 AM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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I synthesize what I read and hear. No one link that I know of can provide that, even if I had one.

But here is some of it: There are security cameras at the hotel. The layout of the hotel is such that Natalee would have shown up on the cameras if she had returned to her room.

The timeline of events is such that even the fact of her disappearance is a difficult scenario - not impossible, just difficult - in other words, to fit in some type of incident that resulted in her death or kidnapping or burial or whatever happened, is a tight fit, timewise. From the time she left C&C to when we have Joran and the Kalpoes acknowledged to be somewhere doing something, without Natalee.

So where is the time available for her to have returned to her room and then done something after that, leading to her disappearance??

Not a thing seemed to have been disturbed in her room, absolutely nothing. It looked like it was a frozen scene, everything neatly arranged and packed up, just waiting for her to return and leave Aruba with her group.

Natalee's mom, whom you seem to trust, has said in every interview where she was asked, that she is absolutely positive, without even a trace or shadow of doubt, that Natalee never returned to her room. And she is going on the evidence that the investigation has, plus her own observations upon arrival there, plus her own instincts.

2,061 posted on 07/28/2005 10:12:41 AM EDT by txrangerette

Thank you very much! Excellent synopsis! I posted it over here for the benefit of everyone. Thanks again!

33 posted on 07/28/2005 7:35:01 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: txrangerette

Woops! Pinging you to post #33.


34 posted on 07/28/2005 7:36:05 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: TexKat

bttt


35 posted on 07/28/2005 7:36:25 AM PDT by Deguello
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Fight between RTS and Justice reaches NRC - Amigo.com

ARUBA -- NRC Handelsblad published an article last week with headlines ‘The criminal sides of a beautiful pearl’. According to the article, the fight between the RST and the local authorities endangers the tackling of the organized criminality.

“Aruba does everything possible to look like a decent island. But appearances are deceiving. The island is a steppingstone for criminals, especially white-collars.” This is the start of a large article that appeared on page 2 of the Dutch quality newspaper NRC last week Friday. According to the article, Aruba is a steppingstone for large-scale drug dealings, money laundering practices, and financings of terrorist movements in South-America. According to the article, the collaboration between the RST and the local authorities is not optimum and the Chief District Attorney Karin Janssen wanted to bring in the RST immediately after the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. But the ministry of Justice had stopped that. The article is based on reporting of the Dutch ministry of Justice and the annual report of the RST. Also Chief Constable Gerold Dompig got a word in. According to the article, the tracing in Aruba is insufficiently equipped to face up to organized crime. Dompig indicated that the decrease of the percentage of solubility to 11.1 percent of all reporting is caused by the reorganization of the police and by too little capacity. About the Holloway case he also indicated that the perpetrator is there, but the problem is the furnishing of proof.

36 posted on 07/28/2005 7:36:34 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: onja
You know...people just pop in here and ask that same question from time to time and the fact that you ask it pretty much tells me the depth (or lack thereof) of your compassion not only for this family, but for any family going through something like this. Would you have us believe that you are supporting the other families with missing members who are not on TV? Please don't even try to go there. If that were true your nonchalant phraseology would have been omitted from your post.

If this TV coverage offends you in some way or if you don't care about the fact that this girl is missing and most likely is dead, I say to you (as the liberal Hollywood crowd loves to do) Don't Watch It. Censor yourself. You don't have to tune in...use that remote. That's what it's there for. And, lol, to come on a message board where most everyone posting is interested in the case and try to diminish the level of interest is a bit childish.

If you got lost and ended up on this thread just click on Forums and you can pick the topic that is truly of interest to you. Good luck finding something that you are able to contribute to.
37 posted on 07/28/2005 7:37:53 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: spectre

No I don't but I think a gradual withdrawal might be helpful. Say, first only lurking for "x" number of hours a day; then not clicking on the thread for a day, just to see what happens! (And let me know; I may try it too.)


38 posted on 07/28/2005 7:37:53 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: texasbluebell
Talking to yourself, were you?!

Sometimes it gets a little lonely . . . LOL!

39 posted on 07/28/2005 7:38:24 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: onja

It is a daily dose of mystery and amateur sleuth-ism.


40 posted on 07/28/2005 7:39:08 AM PDT by sarasota
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