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To: Nachum
"Which means that they sold even more to us," - Nachum

Improved trade by *both* nations means, by definition, greater prosperity. Even you admit that economic activity between both nations is up after NAFTA. Think about that fact.

" and in the process destablized important American industries." - Nachum

You'll have a difficult time supporting that claim with any evidence.

China and Mexico have *LOST* 22 million manufacturing jobs over the past half decade...The U.S. has only lost 2 million.
China and Mexico Lost 22 Million Manufacturing Jobs Overall

156 posted on 07/27/2005 10:39:11 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
China and Mexico have *LOST* 22 million manufacturing jobs over the past half decade...The U.S. has only lost 2 million.

No!!!! NAFTA is lose-lose. America sends all our jobs to Mexico and China and Mexico and China send all their jobs to America. 24 million jobs were thrown overboard and drowned. LOL!

161 posted on 07/27/2005 10:43:13 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Southack

The sound and fury over Central American trade matters is quite odd. One would think they are a Celtic tiger or something, a bunch of Irish who have caught the perfect wave, except with 20 million folks rather than 5, ready to just kick butt, instead of a rather minor rounding error to NAFTA, a very minor rounding error. Symbolism is drowning out substance, and it isn't pretty. It's damn ugly in fact.


162 posted on 07/27/2005 10:44:06 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Southack

Great post on global loss of factory jobs, that technology has replaced many workers, not movement of jobs overseas.

However, I am have been concerned that our manufacturing capacity to make things and our ability to get the resources to make things has been curtailed.

Do you or anyone here have any information that would speak to those concerns of mine?


176 posted on 07/27/2005 11:02:04 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Southack
China and Mexico have *LOST* 22 million manufacturing jobs over the past half decade




NOW READ WHAT IT REALLY SAYS:
Taken together, the losses of the world's rich nations -- including China, Mexico and others supposedly fattening up on our job losses -- have been equally bad; they've lost 22 million, or 11 percent, of all factory jobs

It says the worlds rich nations INCLUDING China and Mexico.

Hint: China and Mexico are not the worlds rich nations.

What is not said about China is this:

The advances in productivity are broad-based across the industrial sector, with 36 of the 38 major industries experiencing increases between 1995 and 2002. In fact, 27 of the 38 saw annual average productivity growth of over 10% (compared to just 4% in U.S. manufacturing over the same period).
274 posted on 07/28/2005 1:40:25 AM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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