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To: ohioWfan
The "border" is an unmitigated security disasater.

And WHY must we await a bill submitted by a House member before doing something about the border?

Isn't the President supposed to lead?? Naaah, he's the problem -- NO denying it.

As to "free trade," American can NOT compete with the cheap labor of Latin America. We're screwed.

138 posted on 07/27/2005 10:25:48 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Isn't the President supposed to lead?? Naaah, he's the problem

You mean you're not lining up behind his stiring oratory??

142 posted on 07/27/2005 10:29:31 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: F16Fighter
I'm not disagreeing with you on the border, but I maintain that it is not the same issue.

I understand that your main issue is border security, but that does not preclude free trade with Mexico, Central and South America.

147 posted on 07/27/2005 10:32:38 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: F16Fighter

Isn't the President supposed to lead?? Naaah, he's the problem

While you are sitting at the Jersey shore, I am sitting
15 miles north of the largest border crossing in the
world. Though there are tons of problems, This is not
something Bush can do by himself and since this has
been going on long before he became prez this same
hate should have been directed at Clinton since he could
have done something by himself.


149 posted on 07/27/2005 10:34:11 PM PDT by SoCalPol (More Died At Chappaquiddic than Guantanamo)
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To: F16Fighter
"The "border" is an unmitigated security disasater. And WHY must we await a bill submitted by a House member before doing something about the border?" - F16Fighter

Our border is *better* today than back in 2000.

I just spent 9 days along the U.S. - Mexico border, including 2 days around Playa de Tijuana and Tijuana itself. Unlike what you'd see 5 years ago, you don't see hordes of illegals running and swimming across the border. You *do* see U.S. border patrols, U.S. Coast Guard ship patrols, helicopter patrols, and a big steel fence that GWB built after 9/11.

Now granted, this increased border security probably isn't perfect, but it irritates me that people are claiming that we've "done nothing" or that our borders are still "wide open" and other such nonsense.

Yes, there are remote desert areas where environmental groups have successfully sued the Bush Administration in order to slow the construction of the steel fence. Yes, those remote areas *are* passable on foot (but you'd better bring a bunch of water and be prepared to hike for miles) for now. So clearly more needs to be done.

But we also have to give credit where it is due, and there has been substantial progress on border security in the last 3 years, contrary to the people who keep writing articles based on pre-9/11 information.

Once easy, Illegal Immigration Now Risky:President Bush Builds 12 ft Tall Steel Fence Along Mexican Border From The Pacific Into Arizona, Plus Around Major Populated Areas In Arizona and Texas

Illegals Deported By The Planeload Now

158 posted on 07/27/2005 10:41:51 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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