Weed
Member Join Date: June 14th, 2005 Location: Alexandria VA Posts: 44
Re: natalee-opinions and speculations
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Yes, the case. Let's get back to that; let's have a moratorium on criticism of the Aruban authorities for a while and discuss some REASONABLE theories (no aliens, white slavery, etc.) One thing (of many) that bothered me about Greta's interview with Beth about 10 days ago or so, where the two were in Natalee's room at the HI, and Greta commented on the room, what was in it, etc. Beth pointed to Natalee's "packed bags" as evidence that Natalee was ready to leave. What I saw was a large, unzipped duffle bag and what was probably a purse, each on a chair. Greta asked "packed, or never unpacked?" Beth didn't respond, but I think that was a good question. With four girls staying in the room (2 double beds), and for only a 4-night trip, wasn't it more likely that Natalee never unpacked, but just took clothes out of her bag as she needed them? That's what I do, except to hang up a few things in the closet. I almost NEVER put things in the drawers (one time when I did, I left two sweaters behind; it cost $10 to have them mailed back to me). Wonder where her bathing suit(s) was/were. Packed, or hanging up in bathroom to drip dry (presumably, she'd been wearing it Sunday, gone in the water, washed/rinsed it out). If she really was packed and ready to leave, and so organized as Beth keeps insisting, wouldn't she have laid out a set of clothes to wear Monday for the trip back, or at least put them on top of the duffle bag? I'm not saying this proves/disproves a voluntary disappearance, but I don't think one can say for sure that she was already packed.
Also, the room was on the first floor, with a sliding glass door, which could have been left unlocked, if the girls were in and out, and someone could have entered the room that way (Natalee or someone else). Greta asked if it was possible that Natalee had come back to the room and gone out again, and Beth was absolutely insistent that Natalee HAD NOT come back to the room. But how could she be sure, since from what little I've heard, the other roommates may have been out at the pool or in the lobby until very early (5 am), so she could have come back and gone out again without anyone seeing her. Beth also showed Natalee's wallet, with lots of crisp $1 bills for tipping, etc. According to Beth, the only thing missing was Natalee's driver's license. She said Natalee didn't have a credit card; passport was there.
Last night (Wed, Jul 6), Greta had a long interview with Beth about that Monday when Natalee didn't show up in the lobby and Beth was informed. Beth was hazy about the time she got the phone call (around noon or 12:30, I think she said; kind of strange since it had been reported the group noticed her missing when she didn't show up in the lobby at 830 to go to the airport). Beth was in a car in Memphis when she got the call (I wasn't paying close attention, not sure why she was there, but assumed that's where the group was flying in to, vs. Birmingham?). Beth said she was going to pick Natalee up at the airport, since the mother of one of the other girls had taken them there for the outgoing flight. Said she called 911 several times as she was driving, saying "my daughter's been kidnapped in Aruba." Beth drove for a couple of hours at 110-120 mph and was stopped by a policeman (I presume she was driving back to Bham?), whom she also told about Natalee being kidnapped in Aruba. Greta asked how Beth came to that conclusion; Beth said she just knew. Jug arranged for a plane, and they left Birmingham abt 5 or 5:30. Oh, and she said Jug had given Natalee $300 in $1 bills for tips, taxis, food, etc. 300 bills would have been a pretty thick wad; from the view of the wallet (in Greta's interview), it looked like maybe 10-15 were left. I presume Natalee had some other money, or maybe Beth was confused, and it was $300 cash in total, not $300 in ones. So, maybe there is some truth to the story that Natalee approached Joran in the HI casino and said she lost some of her father's money and could he help her win it back (please, I don't know where this came from, but it was weeks ago, I think maybe from one of the VDS parents?), and he won $100 for her.
I believe Weed is incorrect on the amount of one dollar bills that Jug gave Natalee, he post 300 one dollar bills when Beth stated 100 one dollar bills.
" I believe Weed is incorrect on the amount of one dollar bills that Jug gave Natalee, he post 300 one dollar bills when Beth stated 100 one dollar bills.""
I agree, TexKat. I'm sure I heard Beth say it was 100 - one dollar bills.
'The Abrams Report' for July 6
Read the transcript to the Wednesday show
Updated: 11:04 a.m. ET July 7, 2005
Guest: Beth Holloway Twitty, Floyd Abrams, Andy McCarthy, Ben
Wolfinger, Bo Dietl, Jeanine Pirro, Jeralyn Merritt
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8498010/
'Scarborough Country' for July 6
Read the transcript to the Wednesday show
Updated: 11:11 a.m. ET July 7, 2005
Guest: Randy Hammer, Stacey Honowitz, Tim Miller, Paul Reynolds, Linda
Allison, John Merryweather, Bernard Goldberg
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8498049/
Anybody who worries about why she hadn't laid her clothes out to fly back home in has ZERO credibility.
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"Greta asked "packed, or never unpacked?" Beth didn't respond, but I think that was a good question. With four girls staying in the room (2 double beds), and for only a 4-night trip, wasn't it more likely that Natalee never unpacked, but just took clothes out of her bag as she needed them? That's what I do, except to hang up a few things in the closet. I almost NEVER put things in the drawers..."
It is a good question but I would think the answer is easy enough to find out...ask the roommates.