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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: hummingbird

I agree. On the surface it sounds like a local radio station....but, if it's very organized I would be willing to bet there are others behind it.


681 posted on 07/05/2005 3:12:36 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: Dark Skies; Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
From Riehl World:

Anti-US Media Demonstration?

I'm hearing reports from Aruba which suggest that there could be an anti-US media demonstration forming near the Court house ... possibly to be more formalized at 5 PM EST.

No word on the size of any group there now, or anticipated.

Unconfirmed - developing.

682 posted on 07/05/2005 3:13:09 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Rippersnapper

One can have a zillion guesses
as to what his motives were.

I think he was just trying to
get his name into a hot story.


683 posted on 07/05/2005 3:14:11 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: GarySpFc

Thanks for the correction. Either way, the point is the same.


684 posted on 07/05/2005 3:14:59 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: TexKat

The container would ensure that the body (or any pieces)did not wash up on shore.


685 posted on 07/05/2005 3:15:32 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; Rippersnapper; ...
From SM:

People are pissed, but they aren't violent. If they were violent they weren't speaking to the press right now and singing the Aruban anthem (badly).

Just my opinion.

686 posted on 07/05/2005 3:16:49 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: GarySpFc

He has? Where did you hear that?


687 posted on 07/05/2005 3:17:48 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Canadian Outrage
Wasn't it the Prosecutor herself that stated that Mr. VDS has actively obstructed and interfered with the case? THAT speaks volumes to me Gary,what about you? Was it not the VDS's that were furiously attempting to "interview" all of Joran's classmates? These America bashers can bite my A$$!!

I seem to remember one of the reports saying that, but I don't remember if it was the prosecutor. And yes, it does yell at me GUILTY! They were interviewing Joran's classmates.
688 posted on 07/05/2005 3:19:47 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: the Deejay
The FBI was there day one, but did not do any diving. Why? Prohibited by Aruban LE? Don't know. No one has said.

Interesting point. Couldn't they have acted like tourists and gone diving?

689 posted on 07/05/2005 3:19:57 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't stop with the other person.)
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To: GarySpFc


Joran must be a lousy lay or a serial rapist.
A good lover wouldn't want the recipient's memory erased.


690 posted on 07/05/2005 3:21:20 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Yaelle
Any psychologists care to dissect Joran's mindset?

Sociopath = psychopath.
691 posted on 07/05/2005 3:21:42 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: All
From SM:

I could just make out they are speaking of Dee Fine and her boycott talk.

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That group on Top 95 seemed like they were one step away from taking torches to the castle, if you know what I mean....

Man, I hope this gets cleared up soon. Everyone seems so angry!

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I haven't seen any of this on FOX or CNN...is it in the MSM or just on Arubian Radio?

It is just a guess on my part (no confirmation) I think that the didn't allow Fox or CNN to broadcast. I noticed earlier that Greta was phoning in a report. That is unusual for her.

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arubagirl,

Thank you for your input here, it means a lot to us.You are able to remind us of the average Aruban, who really wants this mystery solved and hopes for a good outcome. I can on imagine, how hard it has to be for you sometimes on this board, you must be one tough cookie! I probably would have been typing in nothing but caps and cursing with all those symbols (*#^@) lolol..........just wanted to let you know.

692 posted on 07/05/2005 3:21:58 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Yaelle

Yup, that rationale that says it's never their fault. I couldn't bear to read much of that Idaho fiend's website, but my daughter did and said he blamed society for all his problems and decided to get even. He is evil incarnate. They're revealing now that Shasta has opened up and told them a lot about what happened. He kidnapped her and her brother and sexually assaulted both repeatedly. They're doing DNA tests on whatever bones they found in Montana. Evidently he kept them in two different trailers -- I think that's what I heard. When you see that video of Shasta and the fiend walking into that Quickie mart, she's wraoped her arms around her body in a defensive posture the entire time, head down, no liveliness, joy, nothing normal. It's horrible.


693 posted on 07/05/2005 3:24:51 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Ditter
He has? Where did you hear that?

Go back and read the threads.
694 posted on 07/05/2005 3:25:22 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: onyx
Joran must be a lousy lay or a serial rapist.

LOL!

Both or practicing.

695 posted on 07/05/2005 3:25:46 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay


LOL! I was being serious. Now I see the humor too...lol.


696 posted on 07/05/2005 3:27:15 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; Rippersnapper; ...
From SM:

There's some American woman criticizing Beth, calls herself Arubian. Says if you don't like Aruba go home. I raised 4 children on this island.

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Terrific!! Now. it's "Americans go home!"? So, they are crticizing the Americans for negative publicity? My assumption is that they are trying to protect their image, right? Protect it in the name of whom? Are they saying for the "Americans to go home", so that other Aericans will come later?? I'm confused...

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He was speaking with a former FBI guy. He continues what is the family to do if: can't get FBI help can't get info from LE

The former FBI said hire a PI.

Response

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, please tell me the Twitty/Holloways have already done this, surely. Perhaps that is how they know the "sickening" (Jug's word) truth

I would bet everything I have that the Twitty's hired their own PI soon after landing in Aruba and confronting Papa and Joren.

When you find out that the "suspects" father is a judge you have to do your own investigation.

697 posted on 07/05/2005 3:27:36 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Rippersnapper
You know, in the early days of this, the FBI had boats & divers out there in the Gulf but didn't send in the divers.

Nancy Grace discussed this on her show at the time. She was totally amazed no divers were sent in at that time.

698 posted on 07/05/2005 3:28:03 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

If there's no body, Joran will walk if prosecuted. That's why he's grinning in the car on the way back to jail. I hope they still have the VDS house bugged, and both their cars. And I hope they listen in when he talks to his devoted parents.


699 posted on 07/05/2005 3:28:10 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Rippersnapper

The FBI said they had to have parameters, a certain area where they would dive, pin pointing where the body might be. They asked for Aruban LE to allow them to dive near the lighthouse and were refused. So after a few days, they went home very publicly, I think hoping to embarrass Aruba into properly investigating the case, but it hasn't worked.


700 posted on 07/05/2005 3:30:30 PM PDT by hershey
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