Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat
Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.
AP photo
Your scenario is plausible except,,the currents on that side of the island don't take a body out, it washes in. Two, why did Joran change his story so much?
Now she could have done that while Joran was on the beach and drowned. And the rest was done to cover it up out of fear. I have always said that was most likely to me. That it was an accidental death with panicked response by teens. But why did the father advise them not to say anything?
Her two roomies get up..probably a wake-up call..no Natalie..bed not slept in..her bags the same as the night before..so she never came home..her clothes for today laid out...they do nothing..not concerned? The roomies shower, dress..no Natalie...they're not concerned??? They leave the room, take their bags down..tell no one that Natalie never came back that morning..not concerned????They get on the bus...go to the airport..tell no one..NOT concerned..Oh, pulleaze...If I were Natalie's parents..you sit the two girls down..ask them to give it up...
It was stated by one of the gals that keeps giving interviews. Someone posted it in one of the threads but (wiping sweat from my brow) I can't be expected to retrieve the info that someone else posted that may or may not have one of those difficult little things called a link attached to it, either!
It's almost impossible to rent a car on Aruba..there's only a very limted supply..the government strictly limits the number of rent-a-cars on the island..why don't they bring in more....supposedly it's for safety, so a bunch of drunk tourists don't kill everyone..the real rewason..one of the best jobs on the island is taxi driver..they have a huge lobby...no rent a cars means you need a cab to go anywheres..so..
No doubt it's some of what you say but it is a small island. More cars equals the needs for more & larger parking lots and roadways to handle the traffic...a big waste of expensive real estate. I've read on travel sites that most of the cabs in Aruba are owner operated...and that's a better situation for Aruba & Arubans than turning the business over to some foreign-owned car rental business & turning Aruban entreprenuers into employees. And, it should be noted that the fares are based per trip, not per passenger...and that indicates to me that they want to minimize the # of cars on the road. Look at NYC...lots of the people who live there don't own a car & don't know how to drive.
Thanks, I'll check them out. Have a nice weekend.
However, this is posted on the CNN web site, story from Aruba June ll...snip.
Casino meeting
"Police said Van Der Sloot met Holloway May 29 at the casino in the Holiday Inn where she was staying.
Later that night, Holloway went to Carlos'N Charlie's with about 40 of her classmates. She left around 1:30 a.m. on May 30 with the Kalpoes and Van Der Sloot, authorities said.:
Shep getting ready to report Beth Twitty is apologizing...:(
sw
guilt of shameful behavior in a spoiled teenager might well be similar to the reaction of a psychopath...(not an expert, so I shall defer to others;)
Nat was spoiled? Nat's behavior was shameful?
I read she was an active, honor student, well thought of, described as a good girl, got herself together, packing early, etc. Where does the spoiled come from? Her family is well to do, is that it?
I went through what notes I have from the various thread. I was hoping it might have been the Scarborough interview but that isn't the one. Might have been an O'Reilly interview.
....look.let's say the boys gave her liquor and drugs..all had sex with her..they say it waa consensual..maybe it was or wasn't..but they left hwer alive and screaming on the beach..they get offers of immunity for any crimes relating to drugs/rape IF they come in to take, and pass, a polygraph..
Consensual sex with one or a group of boys left her screaming?
For crying out loud, do you really think that?
Go to any of the hotels at night..out on the beach..about 8PM..when all the tourists are starting to come down to go off to dinner around the island..into the capital..You can wait an hour for a cab..unless you've made "arrangements" in advance.. ( i.e. a big tip) with the doorman to have one waiting for you..the cost of taking a cab back and forth 5 nights is far more than the cost of renting a car for the week..99% of those tourists would rent a car if one were available..
Very good point. "Pride cometh before a fall"!! Peterson is an excellent example of that.
I didn't say that...sorry if I wasn't clear..you're jumping on me unfairly..I said... they would say it was consensual.....to protect themsleves..even if it wasn't....if they did rape her..if they left her alive on the beach...offer them immunity to pass a polygraph to that effect..
The roommates notified the chaperones early, not by your scenario.
sw
Where was that "said" --- verifyably stated?
Besides, on the last night with her suitcase packed and her ID and money in her room, THAT doesn;t wash.
sw
Below is a direct quote from your post:
look.let's say the boys gave her liquor and drugs..all had sex with her..they say it waa consensual..maybe it was or wasn't..but they left hwer alive and screaming on the beach..they get offers of immunity for any crimes relating to drugs/rape IF they come in to take, and pass, a polygraph..
You said, "maybe it was or not" which leave the impression that this young woman had consenual sex with three men on the beach. I call that a very nasty thing. And I am jumping you. Speculation is one thing, smearing a young woman is another.
sw
I know,,I haven't looked today. But poor Destin, poor Destin. My favorite beach.
oops...I meant 1902 and 1935.
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