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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: grizzfan

"At least one of them left in a snit on ... um, maybe thread two, and said s/he wouldn't return to the Natalee threads."

While there are no parting gifts, did we thank them for playing?


1,661 posted on 07/07/2005 1:14:28 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: onyx
Onyx - there are those who always blame the victim's judgement - it is one of the few things in their lives that make them feel superior.

I strongly suspect she was given the date rape drug. Urine had invested two(?) nights trying to seduce her and here was his last shot. He strikes me as a spoiled party boy who would stop at nothing to get his way.

1,662 posted on 07/07/2005 1:18:01 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: auboy

Another "friend" shows up from time to time with a screen name I'm familiar with from other forums. This poster has been run off for using multiple screen names and takes a controversial view usually to disrupt the thread.


1,663 posted on 07/07/2005 1:18:15 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Li-Li
Mr. Rip: Apparently you are posting and you have not even read posts short ways back. Caught ya! Greta has indeed talked with one of the Kalpoes, for about 30 minutes. You are only posting paragraphs of inuendos--meaning nothing. Just words. You are taking the pleasure from the chatters.

Oooops caught ya! You didn't read. I mentioned that Greta talked with Deepak. The person said that they refused to talk with the Twitty's. I hadn't heard that. Their lawyer did say that he didn't want them doing interviews. The fact that Deepak talked to Greta isn't my problem, its his lawyers.

I hadn't heard that they refused to talk to Natalee's parent's, only that Deepak had spoken with Greta off camera. It seems though that I recall their lawyer asking them not to give any interviews because of the ongoing investigation. When was it announced that they refused to talk to the Twitty's?
1,633 posted on 07/07/2005 12:27:49 PM PDT by Rippersnapper

1,664 posted on 07/07/2005 1:19:01 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: justche
It's too bad there isn't an X option to just ignore someone....

I too have wished for an ignore button. Like another poster just said, I am scrolling to see the author before I read the post now.

1,666 posted on 07/07/2005 1:21:31 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Lizarde

Gee, I haven't called you names or posted nasty pictures making insinuations about you. Lurkers can see how you all treat people with differing opinions.


1,667 posted on 07/07/2005 1:23:09 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: daybreakcoming

I share your suspicions and agree with you 150% that there are always those who blame the victim to feel superior. Thankfully, most of us never make a FATAL error in judgement and I am not conceding that Natalee did.


1,668 posted on 07/07/2005 1:25:17 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: grizzfan

LOL!!


1,669 posted on 07/07/2005 1:26:20 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Howlin
There are some people on these threads determined to make sure Natalee and her mother are good and smeared.

Was just thinking about your comment; do they identify with the person or persons who took Natalee, and would do the same if they had a chance?

1,670 posted on 07/07/2005 1:26:46 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: the Deejay

Wow, you're not "the" DJ are you? Speaking of whom, I wonder where he fit into all this?

And the car thing. At one point, it was the silver Kalpoe boy's car...yet it was said that she left in a taxi - which is it, I wonder? Leads me to think there was another stop made - maybe at the Tatoo?


1,671 posted on 07/07/2005 1:27:22 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Lizarde

Lately so many threads are hijacked by provocateurs that I hardly post let alone read.

FR has been seriously infiltrated by people who do not wish us well. Some pose as conservatives, some pose as Christians, some are just pricks.


1,673 posted on 07/07/2005 1:30:40 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Rippersnapper; Dark Skies

Okay, but did you see the friends' interview? They said he told them Sundays were dead on Aruba, so they were surprised when he showed up at C&C's. They said NH didn't really even talk with him or introduce herself.

I have to agree though about refusing his advances. It follows that he would hold his tongue to avoid having THAT get out! Egomaniacal, of that I've no doubt!


1,675 posted on 07/07/2005 1:32:12 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: grizzfan

Grizzfan as to the trolls and soothsayers, " They ain't nothin,but a thing-they don't mean nothin."

Maybe it is hard for them to be (socially acceptable) when their trespassing in our world.(FR)


1,677 posted on 07/07/2005 1:33:38 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Lizarde
Will this help?


1,678 posted on 07/07/2005 1:34:22 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: Lizarde

CC? Charles Croes? Do you mean Steve Croes, the DJ from The Tattoo? Now that you mention it, he could maybe 'pass' for the same size as JVDS...

So, since he worked with Deepak, you think those three are the baddies and not Joran?


1,679 posted on 07/07/2005 1:34:35 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Dark Skies

I still think there's something to the guys insisting she was drunk. I'm not saying NH wouldn't do that, just that I don't think she would on THAT night, having to get up early and leave.

I guess it does make sense on several levels. Like sleight of hand - now you see her, now you don't! :(


1,680 posted on 07/07/2005 1:36:56 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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