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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

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To: monkeywrench
On SM, right now, they're elated because the MB kids are to be "interrogated" by arubans finest. What a joke. Our FBI already questioned them. The aruban unjustice system is determined to sweep this away.

On SM there are posters, some of which are MB students and I think also some of their parents.

The last I saw which was yesterday, those that were on on SM were not for the boycott of Aruba and was not for the protest, etc.

The following is a post by one of the MB students on SM.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject:

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I'm not back for long... I was just glancing over some posts, trying to refrain from saying anything for fear of being attacked again, but I would like to say once and for all that none of us who are closely tied to case are supporting the "banning Aruba" sentiments being spread currenty. We don't have a problem with the country, we have a problem with the people who took our friend. All we want is for her to return safely as soon as possible.

Please don't attack Aruba or its citizens who have been very supportive and instrumental to the search. I thank these people and am apalled that people would ridicule those who are trying to help.

I also do not feel that Beth should be attacked or faulted in any way whatsoever. She is one of the most amazing people I've ever met and it hurts me that people feel it justifiable to attack an already horribly victimized woman. She is not attacking anyone. She just wants her daughter back. I'd ask those who would say hurtful things about her to please think about how you would act in her situation... I think if you really took tim eto place yourself in her shoes you would see how noble her character truly is.

Thank you and please cintinue to pray for Natalee!

God Bless![/b]

1,621 posted on 07/07/2005 12:07:38 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Carolinamom
How did Snotty Scotty get Laci's insurance?

When did he receive this?

What's up w/that insurance company?

1,622 posted on 07/07/2005 12:08:26 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Howlin

What is bogus Howlin?


1,623 posted on 07/07/2005 12:08:54 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

That she was a runaway; it was thrown out there to divert attention from the crappy job the Aruban police were and are doing.


1,624 posted on 07/07/2005 12:10:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Palladin

You took the font right off my keyboard.


1,625 posted on 07/07/2005 12:11:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: twigs; over3Owithabrain
I see nothing wrong with her statements.

Neither do I.

Geez, what cry babies the arubans are.

1,626 posted on 07/07/2005 12:11:26 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Froufrou

"Does anyone know what the penalty might be if they can pin it on JVDS?"

If I remember correctly, they do not have a death penalty and their life sentence is 40 years. Hope I am wrong!


1,627 posted on 07/07/2005 12:12:13 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: rolling_stone
Murderers and rapists many times know their victims and put on a good front or use props to aid in their schemes...

EXACTLY why a person should NOT trust someone they have known all of two days! Thank you for helping me make my point!!

Her parents did say she was naive, so maybe that explains a lot.

That's news to me...mom even said she had a talk with her before she left...

Correction. It was her uncle that said she was naive.

Natalee’s naive,’ her uncle says For all her activities and achievements, relatives described Holloway as having an almost childlike side, too.

Natalee’s naive. She hasn’t dated a lot. She doesn’t party a lot,” said uncle Paul Reynolds. Holloway attends church regularly and wouldn’t ever run away, he said.

Missing girl called dependable — but naive


1,628 posted on 07/07/2005 12:14:48 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: seekthetruth

40 yrs. in incarceration,
is life for 17 yr. old
joran.

He'll be an old dude when
he gets out.

I'll bet the ranch, he's
already having a hard time
in jail.

Gotta be suffering partying
withdrawls....like an addict.

Hope so! LOL


1,629 posted on 07/07/2005 12:16:12 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Froufrou

I think the leniency was due to his age. Some countries don't have a drinking age at all.


1,630 posted on 07/07/2005 12:19:21 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Rippersnapper; Froufrou
Or posed another way, what kind of young woman gets in a car with 3 strange men?

That's a good point and underscores the likelihood that she had been given rohypnol or some other compliance inducing drug.

1,631 posted on 07/07/2005 12:20:33 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Rippersnapper

EXACTLY why a person should NOT trust someone they have known all of two days! Thank you for helping me make my point!!





No, that's not your point at all. You wish to slam her. It's after the fact, dearie.

Do try to remember that her mother still claims she was kidnapped!


1,632 posted on 07/07/2005 12:20:37 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: twigs
While I personally don't believe that Natalee is still alive, it can't be ruled out.

My thoughts, too. I truly hope that someone is at least exploring that avenue and doing some checking around. I would hate 5 years from now for Mrs. H/T to wonder if she should have considered that possibility, if they aren't now.

And it makes the Kaipoe's refusal to talk with them all the more reprehensible.

I hadn't heard that they refused to talk to Natalee's parent's, only that Deepak had spoken with Greta off camera. It seems though that I recall their lawyer asking them not to give any interviews because of the ongoing investigation. When was it announced that they refused to talk to the Twitty's?

1,633 posted on 07/07/2005 12:27:49 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Dark Skies; Rippersnapper

I have thought from the getgo that she had been given a drug. Hubs and I had the same initial reaction. It doesn't fit that she'd 'go out on a limb' like that, on her last night there, especially.

I can buy that she used bad judgment and may have let her hair down - and her guard - a tad more than usual, given the celebratory nature of the trip.

The rest is on that monster's head. He's lucky I'm not NH's mom. I wouldn't be as nice as she has been.


1,634 posted on 07/07/2005 12:28:46 PM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Palladin

It wouldn't be the first time.


1,635 posted on 07/07/2005 12:32:33 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Froufrou
I wouldn't be as nice as she has been.

Nor I.

I would have been bordering on jail time long ago. LOL

1,636 posted on 07/07/2005 12:33:00 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Froufrou

Yep. And it is apparently the MO of date rape guys to pull a stunt on the last night before a girl leaves the island. Makes sense on several levels.


1,637 posted on 07/07/2005 12:36:07 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Howlin
That she was a runaway; it was thrown out there to divert attention from the crappy job the Aruban police were and are doing.

As far as the crappy job the Aruban police did. True. There is a lot that can be said of how the initial contact with LE, the Twittys and the VDSs was handled. But how many hours does it take before steps are taken in the US before one is considered a missing person, etc.? What is one of the first questions asked when one reports someone (especially a teenager) missing in the US?

1,638 posted on 07/07/2005 12:39:11 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Howlin; xsmommy

I've started scrolling down to see whose name is at the end before I read their post, so I can skip it if necessary; thus far, contentious, abrasive people have added nothing to the thread


1,639 posted on 07/07/2005 12:43:14 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: TexKat

Not many if suspected kidnapping is involved.


1,640 posted on 07/07/2005 12:43:17 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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