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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: MonaMars
Been covered before, but not a gang sign. A symbol for a crude sex act.

Yeah, I remember that conversation. In the pic I have, he's either doing a gang sign or he's doing the "2 downtown, 1 in the brown" sign wrong and doesn't realize it. LOL!

1,401 posted on 07/06/2005 8:07:14 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Howlin

What I understood is that the only way lying can hurt you is if you are charged with something, then it can hurt your defense against the charges. However, if you are not charged with some "larger" more serious crime, then lying cannot hurt you because you cannot be charged with a seperate crime of lying or "obstructing justice". Why? Well, that's just the way their system works...


1,402 posted on 07/06/2005 8:08:44 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Andy'smom

Maybe Deepak's lawyer put the kibosh on the interview. Especially since Deepak is now thinking of suing the Twittys.

The little slime! I guess this is the new way for the Sleaze Brothers to make a fortune, since their drug-dealing career has been dealt a hefty blow.


1,403 posted on 07/06/2005 8:08:58 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: BunnySlippers
:)That one was a corker;)My first and I made it my last.What's nice is we all became friends afterwards:)
1,404 posted on 07/06/2005 8:09:04 PM PDT by fatima (Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)
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To: TexKat

I wondered the same thing about BOR. I hope Fox is rethinking his contract. He is boring, and condescending to all of the reporters he has on his show. And I am still p1ssed off that he got out of his sexual harrasment suite so easily. Fox needs to lose him.

Sorry all BOR fans, but I can't stand the guy.


1,405 posted on 07/06/2005 8:09:14 PM PDT by HoHoeHeaux
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To: rolling_stone

See # 1402


1,406 posted on 07/06/2005 8:11:39 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Palladin
I wonder if Aruban attorneys are beginning to act like US attorneys in whcih case the guy is posturing.

BTW, Mark Hacking eligible for parole in 2034.

1,407 posted on 07/06/2005 8:12:06 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: fatima

We did? ;-)


1,408 posted on 07/06/2005 8:14:07 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (••• ••• •••)
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To: HoHoeHeaux

You're in good company. Many FReepers dislike O'Reilly, esp. since his dissing of the Swift Boat Vets.

BTW, the girl he harassed made out pretty well--there was a settlement of $6 million--to be shared with her lawyer, of course.


1,409 posted on 07/06/2005 8:15:37 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: TexKat

My internet went out yesterday til 6 this evening.....ugh

Thanks to all for the great posts and I'm now all caught up!

Heard Jug on the Hannity show this afternoon. Sean asked him about the "shocking" information and Jug downplayed the comment. I've heard him say it a few times so I was sort of confused.

Lisa Pinto doing NG's show on CNN last night mentioned the 2 fishermen and a car. Was that a rumor? (Pinto is having a baby girl in 3 weeks. She has 2 boys. My trivia contribution for the evening)


1,410 posted on 07/06/2005 8:16:01 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: JustAnotherHolloway

Welcome to Free Republic


1,411 posted on 07/06/2005 8:20:05 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Palladin
Deepak is now thinking of suing the Twittys

heard he might open a 24 hour mobile car wash and detail service

1,412 posted on 07/06/2005 8:20:12 PM PDT by alrea
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To: Jrabbit

I think te Holloways should just go ahead and spill their "shocking" information. It couldn't hurt. It might light a fire under the Aruban authorities.

Greta and Tito were dishing about Karin Jansen, the prosecutor. Tito said she's goodlooking, but don't let that fool you. She's hard as steel (words to that effect).

Greta said, "Yeah-- I caught up with her today and offered my hand. She turned around and walked away from me."


1,413 posted on 07/06/2005 8:20:39 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: BunnySlippers

OK You have me laughing.PS My tagline has nothing to do with you:)


1,414 posted on 07/06/2005 8:20:53 PM PDT by fatima (Make a move and the Bunny gets it.-Guess what movie)
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To: Jrabbit
Lisa Pinto doing NG's show on CNN last night mentioned the 2 fishermen and a car. Was that a rumor?

At this time the only thing we have on that is the transcript from NG's show. I have not heard or read it in any other news provider.

Glad you regained internet access.

1,415 posted on 07/06/2005 8:21:01 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: alrea

How about a 7-Eleven?


1,416 posted on 07/06/2005 8:21:21 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: rolling_stone

As a point of information Greta asked some guy (Aruban atty?)if it was a crime for a suspect to lie to police, and he said no it was not a crime if the person was a suspect..nice huh...

In the United States, you can not be compelled to be a witness against yourself. It is the Right to not self-incriminate often referred to as 'pleading the fifth.'

HEMMER: Fifth point. You have a right not to incriminate yourself, similar to the Fifth Amendment here.

SIMON: Yes. That is similar to down there. Both in our country and in Aruba, there's the right to be free from self incriminating oneself. And that applies both in the investigative stage -- so where they're held now, they can stand on their quote, unquote, Fifth Amendment rights, which is, of course, not the Fifth Amendment down there, but their rights to be free from self incrimination and not necessarily cooperate or speak to the police. If they are charged ... they cannot be required to be -- to testify against themselves. And if they don't testify, no adverse inference can be drawn.

Source

1,417 posted on 07/06/2005 8:23:39 PM PDT by elli1
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To: TexKat; JustAnotherHolloway

Just thinking about WHY Beth might have been so positive Natalee was kidnapped...first, she was certain something bad had happened to Natalee, because no way would Natalee be late to get with the group for her return flight, because Natalee is so organized and is NEVER late. Second, when Beth started to think of what bad thing might have happened, she cannot bring herself to assume Natalee is dead. So the only thing her mind will accept is that Natalee is being held by someone against her will, but is very much alive. This might be all there is to what Beth is trying to say right now. If there is anything more, she is keeping it to herself for strategic reasons.


1,418 posted on 07/06/2005 8:27:33 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: fatima
PS My tagline has nothing to do with you:)

My tagline doesn't have anything to do with you either. :)

1,419 posted on 07/06/2005 8:27:38 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Make a move and Fatima gets it.-Guess what movie)
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To: TexKat

I was having serious withdrawl symptoms....how I became completely addicted to this thing is a mystery!

I haven't heard that info anywhere else, either.


1,420 posted on 07/06/2005 8:27:39 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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