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LIVE THREAD: SCHIAVO AUTOPSY PRESS CONFERENCE11:00 AM EST FROM CLEARWATER, FLA
ABC Action News Local Affiliate, Tampa, FL | June 15, 2005 | Floriduh Voter

Posted on 06/15/2005 7:59:51 AM PDT by floriduh voter

This is news/activism. Terri Schindler Schiavo is still in the headlines. The death lobby shouldn't kid themselves. We are not going to forget...

LIVE THREAD of Terri Schiavo Autopsy Press Conference. It begins at 11:00 pm est from Clearwater, Florida at the Medical Examiner's Office right down the road from where Terri was starved & dehydrated to death.

The ME will have to address that hmmmmmmmm?

John Throgmartin, ME, here he goes. Dr. Steven Nelson joins him. HERE WE GO.


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KEYWORDS: autopsy; clearwater; euthanasia; fl; link; logansrun; presser; schiavo; schiavoautopsy; terri; terrischiavo; terrischindler; whitewash
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To: Hoodlum91
Have you read some of the comments? They aren't full of love. Terri threads consistently have the most name calling, hate-filled language, usually coming from self-proclaimed "Christians". It's ugly.

You must be on different Terri threads than I am. You are just taking a moment to bash religion. Most of the Terri threads are pleasant even though the issue is very serious.

I've only seen hate-filled language from the death to Terri crowd.

561 posted on 06/15/2005 9:42:19 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.terrisfight.org & www.conservative-spirit.org... The Schindlers "Never again.")
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To: Howlin; floriduh voter

Gee whiz, Howlin, you called me a liar! Somebody didn't train you well enough to be careful of that. Shame on them.

But I thank you for churning up lots of activity in this important thread. It is a great education to those just dropping by.


562 posted on 06/15/2005 9:42:48 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Conservatrix
I have a headache....

Tell me about it. After reading this thread, it's spread to my stomach.

563 posted on 06/15/2005 9:42:49 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("Watergate doesn't bother me. Does your conscience bother you, Mr. Felt?")
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To: Howlin

Oh, I have the guts....but this way is so entertaining. If the shoe fits, Howlin, put it on!


564 posted on 06/15/2005 9:42:49 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: mountaineer
There are tons of people who joined FR because of Terri. And "tons" more who have left because of the irrational and slanderous behavior exhibited here by those who claimed to speak for her.

Any many other Freepers stuck around to inject some sanity into the bizzare conspiracy theories propogated by the Schiavo's.
565 posted on 06/15/2005 9:42:52 AM PDT by BlackRain
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To: TBP

"As long as there was money in doing so. Then when it served his convenience, he changed his story."

Same with the parents. Money will change all sorts of things.


566 posted on 06/15/2005 9:42:52 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind. - Humphrey Bogart)
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To: onyx

Now, you know that's not her style......LOL.


567 posted on 06/15/2005 9:43:40 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
"This "branch" of the conservative part of the GOP believes in the government in your BEDROOM, HOSPITAL ROOM, and FUNERAL HOME."

You know it.

568 posted on 06/15/2005 9:44:27 AM PDT by MonroeDNA
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To: faloi
Besides, aren't there "clean needle" programs in some arease to try to stem the spread of disease among drug users?

Yes, but those distributing the clean needles, have legal medical sources.

They just don't go to the corner druggist and buy dozens at a time.

The druggies share needles b/c they cannot go in a drug store and buy them, just by asking.

569 posted on 06/15/2005 9:44:30 AM PDT by the Deejay (The lady Deejay)
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To: floriduh voter

"I've only seen hate-filled language from the death to Terri crowd."

You are so wrong. Calling anyone with a differing opinion a murderer is certainly hate-filled language.


570 posted on 06/15/2005 9:44:32 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind. - Humphrey Bogart)
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To: cyncooper
He stated that if any credible evidence is presented that would warrant revisiting the case they would re-open it.

And you believe that?

We have the testimony of nurses; we have the testimony of doctors; we know the cause of death -- dehydration due to hte state-ordered denial of any feeding of any kind.

So since we know that, how can the cause be undetermined?

Sure...they're going to reopen the case. What a laugh. The whole idea here is to end it in Michael's (and Greer's) favor.

571 posted on 06/15/2005 9:44:41 AM PDT by TBP
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To: jwalsh07

Was that what you got out of my response to you?

I asked you a question: do you think that there had been ANY question about abuse by MS that the doctors and the insurance company wouldn't have brought it up during that trial?

And I asked you why the Schiavos testified she was bulemic, if she wasn't.


572 posted on 06/15/2005 9:45:01 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: kstewskis

I agree. I used to do contract work as a therapeutic musician in hospitals, nursing homes and such. I sang to people not unlike Ms. Schiavo. No one in these institutions talked of what they did NOT have, we all looked at what they did have, and more importantly, accorded them the respect due any diseased or aged human being.

I of course hold to the belief that my singing touched the souls and spirits of those people who could not respond verbally. Sometimes you would see eyes twitch, sometimes a tear, sometimes a groan. Those were human souls responding to stimulation.

OF COURSE Terri was there. I wish I could have sung for her in her final days, or even before. Perhaps I will do this kind of work again, just as protest to the kill Terri (oh sorry, let Terri die) crowd.


573 posted on 06/15/2005 9:45:06 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: MonroeDNA

If I was Terri, I would have some pretty harsh words for the religious nuts if I met them in the afterlife.


574 posted on 06/15/2005 9:45:07 AM PDT by Bones75
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To: fatnotlazy

Do not be fooled; that is what this is about. They don't want me and my husband to decide for ourselves.


575 posted on 06/15/2005 9:45:48 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: yellowdoghunter
"I will assume you have never had one of your children murdered?"

You are seriously disturbed. I mean that.

576 posted on 06/15/2005 9:46:01 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (What happens in Aruba..stays in Aruba))
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To: Conservatrix
The point of this article is to try to assuage the guilt of people who inwardly think it is okay to do away wih people who are vegetables. "We wouldn't do that to just anybody, only ones with no brain function." Yeah, wait 5 years and tell me what is going on in this nation. We let retarded babies die on hospital back rooms. What a waste, people think. Well why not eat fetuses, they are a waste, too.... (several earlier threads today had stories on this).... Dear God, what are we coming to, first dead fetus-eating and now laughing off the cruel starvation of an innocent woman. "It wasn't so bad, she was a vegetable." "It isn't so bad, it's just not really human yet." Didn't they used to make lampshades from the skin of dead Jews? That's economical, too.... Why didn't they just shoot Terri Schiavo in the head? It would have been even more economical. And that way we would all be sure that you killed a vegetable on purpose...

Excellent post and accurately describes the pro-death people on this thread.....

577 posted on 06/15/2005 9:46:06 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Howlin
When you summarily dismiss every OFFICIAL report, you're calling them liars involved in a conspiracy to cover up. Perhaps there just wasn't anything to cover up here; is that too big a concept to grasp? And my agenda is to keep the likes of you out of my life and my decisions on how to end mine.

If have not dismissed every official report. I have not alleged a cover up. I have not called anyone a liar. You have me confused with someone else or you are just plain confused.

You can make whatever decision YOU want about how to "end" your life. However, Terri didn't make that decision in this case. Greer made it for her and he ordered that she be killed by the court ordered prohibition of all hydration and nutrition (read his actual orders). Those are the undeniable facts. It was no different than if he had ordered the prohibition of all oxygen or any sort of respiration and it was carried out by putting her head in a plastic bag until she suffocated. No different. That is what you're defending here.

578 posted on 06/15/2005 9:46:36 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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This has probably been posted already somewhere but here it is in any case:
http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/5050439_autopsy%20report%20and%20supporting%20documents.pdf


579 posted on 06/15/2005 9:46:37 AM PDT by neutrality
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To: Hoodlum91

Calling someone with a differing opinion part of the "Death to Terri crowd" is kinda hateful, also.


580 posted on 06/15/2005 9:47:35 AM PDT by .38sw
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