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Well, now wait just a cottin pickin minute here. I thought you guys were all saying the illegal immigration problem is the number one issue we should all be worrying about and if it's not fixed then the entire US of A was gonna cave-in and the party that says it can fix illegal immigration is the party to vote for? That being the case, Hillary is the only heavy weight (sheesh, no pun intended) running on the anti-illegal immigration platform and shouldn't we all be jumping on her bones, er, bandwagon? Nothing else matters y'know.

I thought you guys were all saying the illegal immigration problem is the number one issue we should all be worrying about and if it's not fixed then the entire US of A was gonna cave-in and the party that says it can fix illegal immigration is the party to vote for? That being the case, Hillary is the only heavy weight (sheesh, no pun intended) running on the anti-illegal immigration platform and shouldn't we all be jumping on her bones, er, bandwagon? Nothing else matters y'know.

I thought Dems were the only ones who resorted to hyperbolic generalizations to quash honest debate on an issue.

I'd rather have all of Mexico and Central America move to my neighborhood than have Hillary become president. But that's just me. But plenty of other folks probably feel differently, and they have the same vote that you and I do. The GOP ignores those people at its own peril. If they give Hillary this opening, it is their fault, not mine. And I'm not going to let the GOP scream "HILLARY!" as a means to absolve themselves of having to confront this issue before 2008. Because in 2012, there will be another reason, and in 2016, yet another. This issue calls for leadership NOW. It isn't just about illegal immigrants. It's also about a porous border in a time when terrorists are trying to figure out how to attack us next.

Oh, and you didn't own this forum, I'd mash abuse for referencing jumping Hillary's bones. That is one thing I'd really rather NOT envision.

Some of these guys are already making threats on FR that they will vote for Hillary because she said something about illegal immigration that gave them the orgasm. Although they know she is absolutely lying they still get their orgasm.

And yep living in Socialist USA under Hillary does not matter at all, and does not matter liberals judges and Supreme courts, more abortion laws to kill more babies, anti gun laws, taxes to the eye ball, socialist health care system, U.N and Europe controlling our foreign policy, all these things do not mater at all as long they get their "Phonic Pleasure" of hearing Hillary or the devil in that matter speaking against illegal immigration.

It is just unbelievable!

...the party that says it can fix illegal immigration is the party to vote for? That being the case, Hillary is the only heavy weight...

I see that I only have two choices:
1) tote the party line and hope that the Republicans do what I want w/r illegal immigration eventually
2) vote my conscious (which will not be to vote for Hillary, but for a 3rd party that might actually do something with illegal immigration).

Choice #2 might make us lose an election, but in the long-term, if it brings my party back where it should be, the party and the country will be better off. We'll get back the WH and Congress the next time around - 4 years is a short time in history and the damage can be undone. But 4 or 8 or 12 more years of unchecked illegal immigration will be hard to undo.

Choice #1 just supports the status quo, which is highly unacceptable to me after living in border states for decades. I also don't see many politicians willing to stand for what they believe if it is different than the party (Tancredo excluded) - so I don't foresee change happening in the Republicans unless their being elected is threatened.