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An Open Letter to Mr. Jim Robinson
April/25/05 | jveritas

Posted on 04/25/2005 6:13:10 AM PDT by jveritas

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To: Spiff; jveritas; B4Ranch; JesseJane; k2blader; All
spiff to jveritas: Hey, stupid, as idiotic as racism is, it is not illegal. I don't know what kind of big brother thought police you had in the country that spawned you, but the FBI is not any kind of thought police...

Spiff DOES have a point, there. whatever one may think of racism, it is not illegal to have racist feelings, or even to mouth off racist sentiments.

...In my opinion, if you can't pass this test you should not be allowed U.S. citizenship nor be allowed to vote if you are (unfortunately) already a citizen. You say you love American more than some of us here. If you can't pass this test, you don't even know what America is and therefore you can't actually love it.

i would go a step further than a mere constitutional/government essay exam. i would require that anyone applying for citizenship would have to know the entire U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, as well as the Declaration of Independence by HEART.

Any person applying for citizenshio would have to write them out by heart AND recite them out loud by heart IN ENGLISH...EVERY WORD.

521 posted on 04/27/2005 7:03:48 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: jveritas
We should not ban anyone but we should not let them control the site either.

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Your suggestions on how to accomplish this?

522 posted on 04/27/2005 7:05:13 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Spiff; jveritas; B4Ranch; JesseJane; k2blader; All
i would require that anyone applying for citizenship would have to know the entire U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights, as well as the Declaration of Independence by HEART.

Any person applying for citizenship would have to write them out by heart AND recite them out loud by heart IN ENGLISH...EVERY WORD.

regarding those thoughts i wrote above, we would take into account certain disabilities (someone who cannot speak, etc.).

but if a person applying for citizenship has the reasonable ability to communicate by memory the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence, then they would be obligated to do so.

Although exceptions could be granted for certain unique cases, they woud be rare and case sensitive.

523 posted on 04/27/2005 7:10:44 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: trisham
Your suggestions on how to accomplish this?

I wish we had a bozo filter we could set to ignore certain posters. Each poster would have on his profile page how many people have put him on bozo status. There would also be a page where you could view the top 25 bozos. While it would not eliminate the need for banning some posters, it would help.

524 posted on 04/27/2005 7:11:48 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: tame
but if a person applying for citizenship has the reasonable ability to communicate by memory the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence, then they would be obligated to do so.

In english, certainly.

525 posted on 04/27/2005 7:12:40 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Spiff
In english, certainly.

Absolutely. In fact, they would also have to pass a basic English exam with certain exceptions re disabilities).

526 posted on 04/27/2005 7:15:06 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: tame
Great then, and I did not say that you said this. However you know that this rhetoric do exist all over the place.
527 posted on 04/27/2005 7:23:49 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: tame

I made a mistake in my other post when I said "you say", I apologize for that.


528 posted on 04/27/2005 7:27:52 AM PDT by jveritas (The Left cannot win a national election ever again.)
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To: jveritas
Great then, and I did not say that you said this.

Well, i don't want to quibble too much, but i must point out that you actually DID say that i said those things:

"This is the rhetoric that you say so many times on some many threads."

529 posted on 04/27/2005 7:29:11 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: jveritas
I made a mistake in my other post when I said "you say", I apologize for that.

i accept your apology.

530 posted on 04/27/2005 7:31:04 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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Hello again RACIST America hater.

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You're not gaining any support with this kind of post.

531 posted on 04/27/2005 7:49:50 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Spiff
I wish we had a bozo filter we could set to ignore certain posters. Each poster would have on his profile page how many people have put him on bozo status. There would also be a page where you could view the top 25 bozos. While it would not eliminate the need for banning some posters, it would help.

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I like it. :)

532 posted on 04/27/2005 8:03:52 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Spiff
Did you ever enter, live or work in the United States illegally?

Although you questions are very simple to answer I am not going to answer it for you because you I have the "right" not to answer for you.

I'll take that as a big YES!

533 posted on 04/27/2005 8:32:33 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: jveritas; Spiff; B4Ranch; JesseJane; Lazmataz
Here are a couple quotes from another Republican President, jveritas; since you like to lecture conservative Republicans on what conservative republicanism is all about:

"There can be no 50/50 Americanism in this country. There is room here for only 100 percent Americanism, only for those who are Americans and nothing else."
~Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) Speech, July 19, 1918

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."~ Teddy Roosevelt (1918)

534 posted on 04/27/2005 8:35:01 AM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: FBD

Excellent post.. Absolutely right. Thanks for posting FBD!


535 posted on 04/27/2005 8:37:51 AM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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To: FBD

i already posted that ... it's a great quote.. here's more of it:

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Teddy Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149 May 7, 1918


536 posted on 04/27/2005 8:45:36 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: jveritas

FR is never gonna be what it was when you and I first joined. Things change. Remember when FR was not even acknowledged? Now we celebrate when one of ours gets face time on H&C. And look at what we did to Dan Rather. This is the reason for these infiltrations. We are a threat to the liberal establishment and they are here to attack us. We can ignore them or take them on, but we won't run away from them. They might even learn something from us. Chin up, jv.


537 posted on 04/27/2005 8:49:32 AM PDT by uncitizen
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jveritas responded privately to all of the questions in my little test. This may shock some of you, but he passed.


538 posted on 04/27/2005 9:05:09 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: sdpatriot

bump to your post! thanks


539 posted on 04/27/2005 9:11:09 AM PDT by FBD ( "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." ~Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: uncitizen; tame; TheSpottedOwl; B4Ranch

You've been infiltrated by law-abiding citizens, uncitizen? Maybe it's not the place it once, and maybe that's a good thing. A threat to liberal establishment IS THE LAW. They circumvent it and overrule the will of the people all the time. But, your attitude and promoting of one who wants to be a citizen, but not obey the law is noted. IMHO this is subversion of the government, and the rule of law.


540 posted on 04/27/2005 9:13:55 AM PDT by JesseJane (Senate Republicans = Fainting Goats.... BOO! ~Close your wallet~)
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