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Without getting into the rightness or wrongness of the term "Tonto," I just want to say that Watie is the king of playing the race card around here, accusing anyone who disagrees with his crazy opinions or challenges his unfounded assertions of being an anti-Indian racist. He's repeatedly accused me of such, without ever being able to point to where I've said any such thing. At one point he told someone that I posted such poisonously racist things that an entire thread was pulled. According to him, every university is hiding secret letters from Lincoln in which he spouts racist sentiments, but which only he has been allowed to see. According to him, New York City is the most anti-Semitic place in America. So, Watie crying "racist" holds little water as far as I'm concerned. He's a habitual liar whose every post on these threads drips with venom, lies, and victim playing.

I disagree:

Watie may be eccentric at times, but he is not a habitual liar. I also know him to be very proud of his heritage, both Confederate and American Indian. New York DOES have a lot of anti-semitism, in my opinion.

For the record, I've had my arguments with watie & he's never pulled a race card with me. I haven't seen him do it with anyone else. He's definitely gets under the skin but that's if you let him. So the guy doesn't like NYC. I don't like New Orleans. He's got his reasons & I've mine. Like his, mine have no semblance to logic, reason or fairness.

By the way y'all, the origin of this thread has to do with a Confederate Holiday: yea or nay?

One more thing Heyworth, if the guy wants his name spelled in the lower case, spell it in the lower case. It's his name for crissakes and you should defer to his wishes regardless of your animosity & no you don't get brownie-points for a "gotcha". Use your wit instead...

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This is a typical Manhattan street sign, made to deliberately confuse everyone. In terms of 'Stand's very unkosher statement 'NYC is the most anti-Semitic place in America' is ludicrously bizarre, considering greater New York City has 1.4 million Jewish citizens. Where does he dig up this stuff? :)

I was not going to respond on 'stand watie' & '4ConservativeJustices' running around Free Republic with their rash of false accusations & lies, tagging me as some sort of "racist". Since they are out of control and have involved numerous people on this particular thread it's best to put an end to this matter now.

Stand & I go back & forth concerning his number one issue, as he does with many others. I have come to expect to be bombarded with classic Stand insults only has he can fire them off :) I let the normal double doers of standard barbs slide off, return them in full, or respond with humour, realizing it's in Stand's nature to defend 'cause', blasting out anyone who does not totally agree with him 110%.

Stand was going on & on about 'damnyankees' murdering his relatives & Indians back in the mid 1860's and blaming me along with others. Finally I said something to the effect 'clam up Tonto and give it a rest' then he responds I am a racist, a bigot, I hate Indians, I am a moron, typical Stand lingo everyone encountering him is very familiar with.

Recently I tried to get him off his single issue in order to speak on economics, the Middle-East situation, high energy costs, OPEC, Israel Iran, and other topics from threads I posted which have absolutely nothing to do with the Civil War, 'Yankees', 'Confederates', Indians or the 19th century. Mr. Stand would not respond even though I linked threads for him. The lack of responding was not surprising.

This is a sample of Stand posting to 'Non-Sequitur' "perhaps N-S is unhappy. after all, he LEADS the unionist coven on FR. leading a motley collection of BIGOTS, morons, idiots & at least one (presumed)racist is HARD on the soul."

It never ends, always the same lines. The next one was directed at me:

"so NOW,moron, you're ridiculing our AmerIndian cultural & religious traditions??? are you also a RACIST too, as well as a FOOL???? "be gone to DU."

When he was asked for prove nothing came forth as usually. Plus I was unaware of what 'DU' was until two days ago and after checking the place it's full of the commies, terrorist supports, radical Dems, etc.

"Good Morming, MORON"

Nice eh? 'Good moring, moron'. I was not even on the computer when that comment was made. lol

The following explains a lot:

"i throughly enjoy irritating TWITS (i confess to enjoying "blood sports", like ridiculing damnyankees,leftists, self-important REVISIONISTS,twits & damned FOOLS. most have NOTHING between their ears except HOT AIR!)".

This one was targeted in my direction:

"several of the SOUTHRONS on FR are watching your posts for MORE inappropriate comments."

My response was the following when I got finally logged on FR, but Stand had been screaming in a number of posts to me, as if I was there:

(My response:) "Are you speaking to yourself sitting 'bull'?. I had a feeling you would make up some excuse not to respond to the economic thread, I was right. :) Again!" Point being on the 'bull'.

On many occasions 'Stand' has defended a guy by the name of 'Kirk Lyons' already known to some on FR as being deeply interlinked with Aryan nations-Klan-skinhead types, and then he has the nerve to label those he terms 'damnyankees' as racists? This whole thing is foolish and should expected by now.

Stand's very own tag-line "(being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)" is a rather bigoted declaration since it attacks the overwhelming majority of Americans. If new people enter Free Republic and see that line, it's not the best image to say the least.

Another classic 'Stand' statement: "as my grandfather used to say: you can tell a damnyankee is LYING if his mouth opens."

One of many incredible quotes from '4ConservativeJustices': "Slavery was LEGAL while they were in the Union, and Lincoln advocating making slavery PERMANENT."

He just invents as he goes along.

FACT: Speech by Andrew Stephens, vice president of the Confederacy: "Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery -- subordination to the superior race -- is his natural and normal condition."

'Stand watie' and '4ConservativeJustices' do either one of you support the above statement from the number two man?

In post #679 I posted the follow after Stand repeated stated I was a 'RACIST' (his capitol letters) and a number of other not-so-nice terms.

'Pilgrim, you are barking up the wrong tree.'

Mr. Stand posted 'Modernman'; & 'All' the following: "he will NOT say if is he IS or IS NOT a racist. i simply asked him to say, YES or NO."

'Stand watie' and '4ConservativeJustices' assumed they had mastered the Big Lie tactic, but got bagged, again. :)