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Group with links to law enforcement says legalize drugs
San Antonio Express-News (TX) ^ | 04/18/2005 | Meena Thiruvengadam

Posted on 04/18/2005 8:48:45 AM PDT by Know your rights

For years, retired police officer Jack Cole arrested people for having marijuana, cocaine and heroin. Now he wants to make it legal to smoke, snort a line or shoot up, regardless of whether it's medically necessary.

Cole is among five police officers who three years ago started an organization aimed at legalizing all drugs. Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, one of several groups calling for drug policy changes in the U.S., says it has grown to include more than 1,700 people in 45 countries. About half of LEAP's members are current or former law enforcement agents.

"We were created to give voice to all members of law enforcement who believe the war on drugs is a dismal failure," Cole said.

The organization promotes regulation as a less harmful, more ethical and effective way to deal with drug use than keeping drugs illegal, a rare view in law enforcement circles. Its members believe the government's fight against drugs has failed to address crime problems, drug abuse, addiction and narcotics trafficking.

"Young people went to jail as a result of what I did out there. People that never committed another crime ended up with their lives ruined, and that bothers me," Cole said.

During his 14 years as an undercover narcotics officer in New Jersey, he collared more than 1,000 people on drug-related offenses. Now his mantra is: "You can get over an addiction. You will never get over a conviction."

And although most say legalization of all drugs is an unrealistic goal, Cole believes it could happen.

"It's the just and correct thing to do," he said. Others joining his crusade include a Huntsville prison warden, retired police chiefs and sitting U.S. district court judges.

"I've had an uneasy feeling about narcotics enforcement for years," said Robert Owens, a former police chief of Oxnard, Calif., who teaches criminal justice courses at the University of Texas at San Antonio. "When I became a police chief, I began to wonder, when is this war on drugs going to end? You can't get people to stop using.

"We're filling prisons with a significant population of nonviolent people," Owens said. "It's killing us."

In 2003, FBI statistics show, nearly 1.7 million people were arrested for drug abuse violations — the leading cause of arrest in the U.S.

Although he doesn't condone the use of drugs, Richard Watkins, a senior prison warden at the state's Holliday Unit in Huntsville, believes legalizing them would reduce drug-related crimes.

"Alcohol prohibition didn't work, and this prohibition of drugs hasn't worked," he said, explaining that many of the burglaries, robberies, assaults and murders inmates serve time for are linked to drug activity.

Numbers from August 2003 show more than 25 percent of Texas inmates — 33,203 people — were serving time in correctional institutions for drug possession, manufacturing or trafficking, according to the state's criminal justice department.

Watkins believes the numbers are misleading because they don't account for related crimes such as those committed to get money for drugs.

But the Drug Enforcement Administration says, "Most drug crimes aren't committed by people trying to pay for drugs; they're committed by people on drugs."

About 19 percent of people in state prisons in 1997 said they committed the crimes they were being held for to get money for drugs, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug, according to the government's Office of National Drug Control Policy.

"If drugs were legal and available, an overwhelming majority might not use," said Will Brown, executive director of the San Antonio branch of the Palmer Drug Abuse Program, an outpatient rehabilitation center for teenagers. "But I just don't know that legalization is the right strategy."

According to the DEA, legalization would significantly increase not only drug use and addiction, but also associated social costs. The administration estimates drug abuse — which it says drives some of the country's most expensive problems — cost the U.S. about $160 billion in 2000.

Twelve states have reduced penalties for those caught with small amounts of the marijuana for personal use, and 12 have medical marijuana laws. Texas is not among those states, but lawmakers here have proposed legislation to reduce the penalties for possession of small amounts and to allow for medical marijuana.

Democratic Rep. Harold Dutton of Houston is lobbying for a bill that would knock possession of less than 1 ounce of marijuana from a Class B misdemeanor, which can carry a jail sentence of up to 180 days and a $2,000 fine, to a Class C misdemeanor, which is punishable by a fine of up to $500.

"Two seeds shouldn't be punished the same as 2 ounces. I don't think that's fair," he said. "We're not fighting the war on drugs the way we should."

He believes law enforcement agencies should focus their efforts on fighting drug trafficking, not arresting recreational users. But he said legalizing all drugs — or even just marijuana — isn't a good idea.

"The social consequences of that are far too uncertain," he said.

And the group pushing for marijuana law reform in the U.S. won't align itself with organizations lobbying for legalization of all drugs.

"There is almost no public support for legalizing anything other than marijuana," said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, a group pushing to eliminate penalties imposed on responsible adult marijuana users. Marijuana is pharmacologically different and more culturally accepted than other drugs, St. Pierre said.

LEAP members, though, hold strong to their belief that legalizing all drugs can have positive benefits.

"We think drugs are bad too, but we can fight drugs without destroying generations of our young people," Cole said. "Legalization is the means to the end."

Keeping any one drug illegal, he said, automatically creates an underground market for it to be sold at artificially inflated prices in a multibillion-dollar trafficking industry filled with criminal activity.

"Right now, the drug lords, murderers and terrorists out there are the ones who regulate drugs in this country," he said. "Government regulation is the only way to go, and that will only occur with legalization."

The DEA calls the argument "appealing" and "simplistic." The strategy, it says, doesn't account for a black market that will exist for minors wanting to buy drugs, increased demand that may come with lower prices or the cost of government regulation.

One Bexar County sheriff's deputy who oversees a popular drug abuse awareness program agrees.

"Look at alcoholism. If we can't control legal alcohol, what makes us think we can control legal drugs?" asked George Little, the county's DARE program director. "I've seen families torn apart, lives ruined. ... Legalizing drugs — give me a break — that's a dumb idea."


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1 posted on 04/18/2005 8:48:48 AM PDT by Know your rights
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To: Know your rights

"The DEA calls the argument "appealing" and "simplistic." The strategy, it says, doesn't account for a black market that will exist for minors wanting to buy drugs, increased demand that may come with lower prices or the cost of government regulation.

"One Bexar County sheriff's deputy who oversees a popular drug abuse awareness program agrees.

"Look at alcoholism. If we can't control legal alcohol, what makes us think we can control legal drugs?" asked George Little, the county's DARE program director. "I've seen families torn apart, lives ruined. ... Legalizing drugs — give me a break — that's a dumb idea."




So how about using a little judgement, and moving gradually? Legallizing some drugs, decriminalizing others, keeping some completely illegal. Try it out slowly, and if you don't like the results, try something else.


2 posted on 04/18/2005 8:54:32 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Know your rights
I tend to agree
The end of Bootlegging's was not Elliot Ness it was getting rid of the Volstead act
Remember that most dope user are Liberals
Why should we prevent them to OD themselves
3 posted on 04/18/2005 8:55:08 AM PDT by 1903A3
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To: proxy_user
"If we can't control legal alcohol"

Who says we aren't? And does George/DARE think we should re-enact Prohibition?

4 posted on 04/18/2005 8:57:17 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Popping the popocorn, getting a large soft drink, and waiting for the fireworks to start.

IMO, make 'em all legal and let the addicts kill themselves off.
A little chlorine in the gene pool is not a bad thing.

5 posted on 04/18/2005 8:57:37 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Monthly donors make better lovers. Ask my wife.)
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To: Know your rights

Ya gotta admire these ex-cops' courage!

Under modern socialist conditions, in which the Official Lies of the Government are the foundation of the State religion, even to state the most obvious common-sense truths is to risk communal hatred.

Kudos.


6 posted on 04/18/2005 8:59:28 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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"Look at alcoholism. If we can't control legal alcohol, what makes us think we can control legal drugs?" asked George Little, the county's DARE program director. "I've seen families torn apart, lives ruined. ... Legalizing drugs — give me a break — that's a dumb idea."

So you think alcohol should be illegal again? You're the dumb one, moron.

7 posted on 04/18/2005 9:02:08 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (Jeb Pilate and the Republican Congress: Stood by while someone died)
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Damn libs want to make everything illegal and have the government run our lives. What's next libs? Make cigarettes illegal?!?!


8 posted on 04/18/2005 9:05:22 AM PDT by Liberal_Lies
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To: headsonpikes

Well said.



9 posted on 04/18/2005 9:06:21 AM PDT by jsmith48 (www.isupatriot.com)
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To: Know your rights
"Right now, the drug lords, murderers and terrorists out there are the ones who regulate drugs in this country," he said. ...

It's just cause and effect. If you prohibit a material object it instantly increases in value far beyond its inherent worth. You can't change the consequences of cause and effect with laws or money any more than you can change gravity.

10 posted on 04/18/2005 9:08:26 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Terri put the lie to them all. She wanted to live and she proved it." - 8mmMauser)
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To: headsonpikes

Peter Christ is LEAP's founder. I saw him speak in February. He is amazing. I like his message.

Decrim / re-legalize NOW and put the bad guys out of business!


11 posted on 04/18/2005 9:09:53 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Know your rights

No


12 posted on 04/18/2005 9:10:22 AM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Sir Gawain
i dont think Know indicated where he stands on this.

Expose your kids early to what they will be exposed to as teens/young adults and teach them that THEY are the ones who will need to decide what risks to take in this life and that ALL drugs have risks.

Drugs are inanimate objects and can only do injury if used recklessly.

13 posted on 04/18/2005 9:11:28 AM PDT by corkoman (Overhyped)
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To: Know your rights
There are groups with links to law enforcement that favor gun control too.

I think if you want to add 'weight' to an argument, you can find a group with 'links' to law enforcement or whose members are law enforcement officers to support almost anything.

It just doesn't add 'weight' to the argument any more.

14 posted on 04/18/2005 9:12:35 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Know your rights
But the Drug Enforcement Administration says, "Most drug crimes aren't committed by people trying to pay for drugs; they're committed by people on drugs."

The two are not exclusive of each other.

Talk about a conflict of interest! Having the DEA proclaim on drug policy is like having Barney Frank proclaim about the benefits of gay marriage.

15 posted on 04/18/2005 9:13:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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I'm in favor of legalizing drug use. First, what people do to their own bodies is their own business, not mine or for that matter society's unless they harm others. Second, its time to get organized crime out of the business of selling drugs. Much of the attendant crime and social costs is due to the fact drugs are illegal to possess and there's the "forbidden fruit" temptation. Third, we need to recover our freedoms that are being eaten away in the name of waging the war on drugs. These three reasons are the main ones for legalization. There are others but they all rest on recognizing that we can't control what people ingest. We can only hope they act responsibly and no policeman armed with a billy club can get an individual to do that. If we need coercion to get people to do what is right, I submit we have already failed. None of the above means I think drug abuse is a good thing; I just think individuals should be able to see their way on their own to take care of their bodies and minds and the last thing we need is to have the state treat them like children - which is exactly what our current drug laws do. That is why they need to be reformed.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
16 posted on 04/18/2005 9:14:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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17 posted on 04/18/2005 9:16:29 AM PDT by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: corkoman
ALL drugs have risks. Drugs are inanimate objects and can only do injury if used recklessly.

Very true as evidenced by the fact that far more people are killed and injured by legally prescribed and properly taken drugs than illegal drugs and alcohol. Teach your children to make informed decisions in every area of life be it the school yard or the doctor's office. On the highway or on the shooting range. Inanimate objects don't think about anything. They just do what they do when a person directs them to do it.

18 posted on 04/18/2005 9:21:50 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Terri put the lie to them all. She wanted to live and she proved it." - 8mmMauser)
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To: corkoman

I was calling the author of my quote a moron, not the poster.


19 posted on 04/18/2005 9:25:49 AM PDT by Sir Gawain (Jeb Pilate and the Republican Congress: Stood by while someone died)
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I stopped by the LEAP booth at Hempfest in Seattle a couple of years ago and spoke to one of the officers. From the conversation, I understood that they were only talking about legalizing marijuana. One of the things he said stuck with me: "I've never had somebody smoke pot and then try to beat the crap out of me. I can't say the same for alchohol."
20 posted on 04/18/2005 9:43:38 AM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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