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Cochise officials investigating 2 Minutemen
Arizona Daily Star ^

Posted on 04/07/2005 5:32:55 AM PDT by Kokojmudd

Illegal entrant taped holding 'caught' T-shirt By Michael Marizco ARIZONA DAILY STAR

PALOMINAS - Cochise County officials said they are investigating two Minuteman volunteers after an illegal entrant complained Wednesday to authorities that he was held against his will.

One of the men paid the illegal entrant $20 and gave him a T-shirt to hold up while he filmed the encounter. The T-shirt read: "Bryan Barton Caught an Illegal Alien and all I got was this T-shirt," said Carol Capas, spokeswoman for the Cochise County Sheriff's Department.

It's the first encounter where an illegal entrant has filed a complaint against Minuteman Project volunteers since the monthlong controversial protest started Friday. Volunteers have gathered in Southern Arizona to protest what they said is the federal government's inability to control the border.

Critics said the encounter is the first sign that the Minuteman Project is a "sham" meant to humiliate illegal entrants.

The incident started Wednesday afternoon when Barton, 24, and a second Minuteman volunteer encountered the illegal entrant on Arizona 92 near Palominas, Capas said.

Barton said he gave the man the T-shirt and $20 plus food and water. Then he filmed the man holding up the T-shirt.

The volunteers then called the Border Patrol, which sent agents to pick up the entrant. Once in custody, the entrant complained about being held by the volunteers.

"It was supposed to be funny," Barton said about the encounter.

Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever didn't think so.

"We have no time or patience for anyone attempting to turn this situation into a three-ring circus," he said.

The Cochise County Attorney's Office is also investigating the complaint.

Barton, who is running for Congress in San Diego on the Republican ticket, said he's not worried about charges being filed and that he never held the man against his will.

He said deputies seized the video for evidence. No arrests have been made in the incident.

"This shows what we've been saying all along," said Jennifer Allen, director of the Border Action Network.

"It was nothing but a media sham to mislead the public," she said. "Clearly they misrepresented the situation. They misrepresented themselves."

Minuteman Project organizers Chris Simcox and James Gilchrist could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

● Contact Michael Marizco at 573-4213 or mmarizco@azstarnet.com.


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To: DumpsterDiver

Well I want to know a whole lot more about this guy. Most California republicans don't impress me much, a lot of them seem sympathetic to the illegals.


81 posted on 04/07/2005 7:15:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: odoso

There is a place for hyperbole and then there is wretched excess. Your comment was well removed.


82 posted on 04/07/2005 7:17:28 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Spiff

Reality TV does the same all the time - tricking people in "Punk'd" and so on. And is anyone else here old enough to remember "Candid Camera"?

The Minutemen aren't gov't officials. They're just a huge neighborhood watch group. What these two guys did was nothing... (unless the illegal is able to sue for damages?)


83 posted on 04/07/2005 7:19:06 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: harrowup

"There is a place for hyperbole and then there is wretched excess. Your comment was well removed."

In your very humble opinion...


84 posted on 04/07/2005 7:20:40 AM PDT by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: muawiyah

Most people at this site are NOT opposed to LEGAL entry. We simply want some CONTROL, any control of our southern border. We are not for a China-NK border where the people of NK are basically prisoners in their country.

Just enter LEGALLY.


85 posted on 04/07/2005 7:20:43 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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To: Kokojmudd
Barton said he gave the man the T-shirt and $20 plus food and water. Then he filmed the man holding up the T-shirt.

It appears to be a legitimate transaction. Money and goods in exchange for services rendered (holding the shirt for a picture).

The illegal could have refused to hold the shirt.

86 posted on 04/07/2005 7:23:41 AM PDT by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: cripplecreek
Well I want to know a whole lot more about this guy.

The guy has a website if you want to check him out:http://www.VoteBarton.com

Most California republicans don't impress me much, a lot of them seem sympathetic to the illegals.

Most politicians are only sympathetic to what they believe will get them votes.

87 posted on 04/07/2005 7:25:10 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; ...
Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
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I'm pretty sure (w/o actually talking with Gilchrist or Simcox) that this bozo is gone by now...or at least, on his way home.

Pure political publicity stunt, and that's the way the SV Herald portrayed it in their reporting.

88 posted on 04/07/2005 7:27:24 AM PDT by HiJinx (Report Illegals ~ 1-877-USBP-HELP (872-7435))
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To: odoso

Humor is your friend.


89 posted on 04/07/2005 7:27:37 AM PDT by harrowup (Just naturally perfect and humble of course)
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To: Kokojmudd
Let's see if I got this picture:

Give Food & Water + $20 + T-Shirt to Illegal Alien - Ridicule, Persectution, & Possible Prosecution by the Pompous Left Wing

Deny Food & Water until Death to Legal Resident guilty of No Crime - Be praised as a Great and Honorable Man by the Pompous Left Wing

Now I understand completely.

90 posted on 04/07/2005 7:27:38 AM PDT by Babu
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To: muawiyah
Hey, all you gotta' do is get them registered and the rest is history.

And you support this blatant breaking of the law? Not only are illegals a great, cheap source of labor for people looking to trim their bottom line, they are also great for keeping our criminal justice system packed with rapist, murders, and thieves...

91 posted on 04/07/2005 7:29:53 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Huck
Agreed. Unprofessional.
Unprofessional? Tell me, where does a Minute Man go to become certified?
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92 posted on 04/07/2005 7:31:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: Kokojmudd

"circus," it's the new epithet.


93 posted on 04/07/2005 7:31:51 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Kokojmudd

bump


94 posted on 04/07/2005 7:32:09 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: harrowup

"Humor is your friend."... and foolishness yours.


95 posted on 04/07/2005 7:32:28 AM PDT by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Kerretarded

"He is extremely PRO-OPEN BORDER. Ignore him."

Tard, I think it would be more accurate to call me 'anti-murder'.


96 posted on 04/07/2005 7:33:31 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: oh8eleven
Unprofessional? Tell me, where does a Minute Man go to become certified?

Sanitariums? Do they still have those?

97 posted on 04/07/2005 7:35:38 AM PDT by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: harrowup
No. You narrow minded criminal alien apologist. I'm not bigotted at all. How is it "bigotted" in your twisted littel psychopathic world to want new immigrant to our Country to do so LEGALLY? And not have your first act as a person dwelling on our soil be a CRIME?

You may need to seek professional help.

98 posted on 04/07/2005 7:35:44 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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To: Orange1998
FR policy is to remove the hate/violence posts. It is not uncommon for numerous posts to be deleted from many of the immigration threads.

I'll say it again, most who participate on the immigration think the same way, but have enough sense not to say it because they know that the post will be deleted or they could be banned/suspended. They may not say it, but they think it.

You will also find that another popular type of post on these threads is the demonizing or sub-humanizing type. The attempt is to catagorize these Mexicans as evil, vermin or less than human. This attempt is aimed at the individual, the entire group and Mexico as a nation. "Hell, he's just a greaser, I'll use him as a prop in my photo."

It is also quite popular at FR to dispute that a US citizen with a spanish surname is really a citizen. You can go thru any thread on Gonzales, Martinez ,or Garza and you will see those who say that they are not "Americans".

You will find many who say "we are only against the illegals, we welcome those that are here legally". But you will find numerous threads/posts advocating against those who are legally in this country on a work visa. Also, as I pointed out in the previous paragraph, many are against anyone with a spanish name. This includes those that are descended from hispanics who came here before most white people.

Most find comfort in the fact that most of the extreme posts get deleted. Most don't realize that it is not difficult to view those deleted posts. Hopefully, they won't be used against FR or the individuals who made them.

99 posted on 04/07/2005 7:37:01 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: ClintonBeGone

Asshat. "Tards" like you would leave our borders wide open and undefended. Even against Al Queda. Take your BS back to DU where you belong.


100 posted on 04/07/2005 7:37:09 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Sooner or later, you have to stand your ground. Whether anyone else does or not. - Michael Badnarik)
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