Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
I know. I've scrolled through some out there in the MF, but would not post there. Too bad some of them could not give us the same respect.
Bump!...so I don't have to scroll when I come back
Certain religions and sects prohibit it. Some people probably just find it "icky" and refuse.
Personally, my driver's license has the "organ donor - yes" tag on it.
I couldn't figure that one out, either. I'd like to think that the mod was needed elsewhere. I'll bet that behind the scenes on FR, in mod-land, things are just as contentious as they are on the main board.
Kind of says it all, doesn't it?
The trolls show exactly their character and motivation when they do what they do. That's why I don't pay them any attention, other than to thank them for bumping.
"I see this as a family feud..." is exactly right. The fact that the families allowed it to turn into a circus made me lose respect for all involved.
I hope that you don't leave. Rational minds will always prevail, but we do have to stick together. Ignore the screaming banshees.
That is meaningless, though. There are specific rules concerning who is able to nominate someone for a Nobel Prize. This congressman is ineligible to make a nomination. If I were to write a letter to the Nobel committee nominated you for the Nobel Peace Prize, that would have equally as much weight.
That's great. A politician nominates him and his peers laugh at him. Thanks
I don't think we should give up on the MF either. Maybe if enough threads are posted on other news, things will die down. But if we just leave it to the folks out there now, we could change the whole idea of the forum.
- A large chunk of FReepers voted in polls here that they supported the governor calling out the Guard.
- A large chunk supported the use of children as political props, and getting them arrested and placed into danger.
- Many FReepers began PRAISING Jesse Jackson, and some even shilled for donations to him.
- Many FReepers posted nonstop Nazi imagery. Do they really think that everyone "gets" what they are trying to say, rather than just assuming that they are neo-Nazis themselves?
- Many FReepers are calling for solid Republicans to be thrown out of office "for not doing ENOUGH".
There are widespread calls for people to violate the law.
- Death threats to public officials has been tolerated.
What am I to think?
- A large chunk of FReepers voted in polls here that they supported the governor calling out the Guard.
- A large chunk supported the use of children as political props, and getting them arrested and placed into danger.
- Many FReepers began PRAISING Jesse Jackson, and some even shilled for donations to him.
- Many FReepers posted nonstop Nazi imagery. Do they really think that everyone "gets" what they are trying to say, rather than just assuming that they are neo-Nazis themselves?
- Many FReepers are calling for solid Republicans to be thrown out of office "for not doing ENOUGH".
There are widespread calls for people to violate the law.
- Death threats to public officials has been tolerated.
What am I to think?
No charges for dutch doctors who euthanized babies
WE ARE NO LONGER ON A SLIPPERY SLOP
Doctors in Holland who euthanized infants with disabilities will not face charges, according to a report published in the Dutch Journal of Medicine. In the past seven years, 22 cases of euthanasia were reported for babies born with spina bifida, a birth defect affecting the spinal column. Another study found that an additional 15 to 20 babies a year are euthanized but not reported for fear of prosecution. Dutch prosecutors have decided not to charge the doctors in cases such as these, as long as it involves a newborn who has no chance of survival and is suffering unbearably, the parents have agreed, the doctor has consulted at least one other doctor, and the infant’s life was ended in a correct medical way.
Supporters hope that this decision will encourage doctors to report these cases and be open about it. Some media have criticized the practice, including America’s Fox News which likened the baby euthanasia to the Nazi murder of Anne Frank.
I can take flaming. I can't take the irrational extremism and the fact that it is tolerated by the Mods. Six months ago, half or more of this trash would have been pulled.
Go away. You have hundreds of TS threads to haunt. Leave us alone.
Nonsense.
It's amazing - I've been on a public school thread and there haven't been any flames.............
FedEx just arrived with all the components for the computer that hubby ordered the other night - I'll be able to get my own computer back tonight!!!!!
I've got to run to the store - be back in a while.
Hurray! See ya when you get back!
Bump.
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