Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Thanks for that info...I will have to watch Scarborough later on tonite...gotta see Catherine nail him too...
They were going to a fertility clinic and that's the doctor they sued. But you're right, it doesn't mean it was a happy marriage. Lots of people try ot have children to enhance an unhappy marriage.
I do think it's unfortunate the Schindlers couldn't find anyone to say they had an unhappy marriage except Jackie who already said one thing in the deposition and another in court.
Pat, "Why didn't you bury her then?"
Rough....... that was great.
Every single word he and Pat Buchanan said; it was a TKO; she cleaned their clocks and left Buchanan babbling at the end.
If it hasn't come on in your time zone, do NOT miss it.
I'm exhausted just from watching.......LOL.
Don't hold your breath. It's another foolish allegation.
We aren't even close to what is going on at Scarborough Country.
This not easy for sincere people on either side.
It was a stupid, vacuous reply that proved his argument wasn't worth the spit he used to get it out of his mouth.
Don't miss it.
Catherine is saying what all of us who have been there with loved ones have been saying for weeks. Pat is a fool.
What do you mean by "this"?
Certainly not Terri clinging to life I presume. If you meant the discussions going on all over America, then I'd have to disagree with the notion that they will end when the court filings end, or even when Terri finally dies.
Recipes? Paula Deen?
I pulled weeds today........LOL.
I do not like Catherine Crier. She has weighed in on political issues on several occasions and shocked me with her wrongness.
One is the Plame issue and the other had to do with something else recently...I can't think of what it was but she took the dems' side, which of course was a baseless side and just a bit of research would have revealed the error of her ways.
Gosh, I wish I could remember what it was but she was quite worked up about how wrong President Bush was but I can't think of exactly what it was but I was ticked when someone reported it (I don't watch her show on Court TV).
Also she has her new book out and I happened to catch the very end of her appearance on Fox a couple weeks ago when she was asked about security at courthouses (in the wake of the Atlanta shootings) and she said "it's all about money", there's never enough money spent on security. How intellectually lazy if not outright dishonest. They had technology that was not taken advantage of (like live video cams that were supposed to have two people monitoring and they failed to do so), not to mention the poor decision making of allowing a petite female to be the sole escort of a huge alleged rapist.
At any rate, I do know she'll occassionally be right but she has earned my scorn and I do not respect her.
I find that using the scroll button on my mouse helps immensely in many instances.
LOL! I'll use the excuse that my back begins to really hurt the longer I sit here at the keyboard............. then I get tense. ;-)
LOL- soon it'll be time for HGTV. This is intense.
So take what you read with a grain of salt.
None of us know what this is all about. I've watched raging debates going on between people and the simple fact is, nobody knows the facts.
That's all I'm going to say on the matter because I am tired of being disappointed with both sides.
Oh, come on. Give us some credit. Haven't we known for a LONG time that Pat is a fool? The Schiavo case just highlights the truth.
Was there a court trial that I missed, where they were determining whether he was a wife beater? If the answer is NO, then your question is absurd and meaningless. I'll take the word of Terri's best friends. I'll also put more credibilty in what they said because of the testimony of MS's former girlfriend.
That was brutal, wasn't it?
SCOTUS refused to hear appeal.
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