Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Why won't anybody say that the reason this has gone on so long because the parents don't like the decisions they've gotten.
BINGO.
I hear you. You are the wisest one on this thread, imho.
Don't feed the trolls.
And that's where the money has gone, too.
Exactly.
PC
Yeah. Such an reasonable guy is he.
As to her being bulemic, nobody knows that. If she was undergoing fertility treatments, she could well have been having a reaction to that. That may also be the reason for the fractures in her bones. Any time you fool around with hormones, all kinds of things happen.
I believe that is why they filed the malpractice suit...the bulimia and fertitily treatments didn't mix, which attributed to the cardiac arrest....I guess.
NOBODY knows what's right here. And pulling out all the "facts" in the world is rediculous because the simple fact is, the FACTS have been sealed by the court
Not all of them as I've been reading the court testimonies and motions, just as anyone can......putting a stop to the lies and rumours and posting what facts are available.....don't believe I have said anymore than that regarding this matter.
Best Wishes
Well just damn! You just never know who's a member of WPPFF these days. I've posted this before but it's good enough to post again:
Folks, all you really need to know about this case is who's lining up for Terri, and who's lining up against her.
When I see godless demonrats, the American Hemlock Society, the America hating, God hating ACLU, a scummy death loving promoting lawyer (Felos), a wife beating, adulterous husband, the MSM, Ted Kenedy, Howard Dean, The Communist Youth Brigade, etc., etc., ALL LINE UP ON ONE SIDE, I KNOW THAT I KNOW, THAT I WANT TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE!!!
Ah, the report from the great Nobel Prize Nominee...did I understand it correctly, that when he claimed he had some patient worse off than Terri, and he had that patient walking, that he would not provide concrete proof to support his assertions..., or am I thinking of someone else...?
Now, what I am about to say here is just my own opinion...knowing what I have seen, in working in nursing homes with a number of PVS patients(all of them young people), I have come to the conclusion, that at least in my own experience I have never seen a PVS patient respond to me, to their environment, to their families, to music, to anything at all...
Now this doctor that is now on Greta, is stating that altho we can see the Catscan of Terris brain,which shows what level of damage her brain is at, still that Catscan does not show her actual 'function', what she is actually capable of doing...
So, in spite of what the Catscan shows, in spite of what my own experience has been, I still am not entirely convinced that Terri does not respond...after all, not all cases of PVS are the same...the doctors do know so very little about the brain...
just my own random thoughts..
I did. Scroll up the thread wherein NautiNurse tried to bitch-slap me.
What is she nailing him on?
I think you just did.
Where's your proof that Michael Schiavo beat his wife? No allegation has ever even entered the light of day in court.
*Sigh* We're all getting tense here and we need to remember to be nice to each other.........I'm trying and praying at the same time.
You know, I actually like Jay also...I have seen him on other programs, and he does strike me as a brilliant, caring lawyer...
But I think pairing him up with Sean was a mistake..instead of Sean behaving more like Jay, Jay started acting like Sean...
And yes, indeed, I wish these segments were much longer...often they just get started, and they have to end...
Thats really a good idea for a new TV program...just have an objective moderator(if you can find one), and then invite two reputable guests, to discuss the subject for the whole hour...it would be quite interesting and probably more informative than these short 5 minute blurbs...
Yeah, I'll have to work on that.
section 8 (below), we're basically told that 'real conservatives' would not be making such a big deal out of the Terri Schiavo case.
#8 is directed more towards behavior than toward beliefs. A "big deal" can be made in a dignified manner.
I'm ready to bail and hang out on the recipe threads on a different forum. Reason has gone out the window.
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