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MANIFESTO OF THE WPPFF/WILD TURKEYS/COALITION OF THE SANE
Me. | 29MARCH05 | Long Cut

Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut

We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:

1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.

2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.

3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.

4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.

5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.

6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.

7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.

8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.

The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.

We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.

We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.

If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.

We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.

Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.

Let the discussion begin!

Signed,

The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: antifreepers; antimilitary; bloodlust; cary; clownposse; du; eugenics; euthanasia; forcedexit; moles; murder; nazi; singer; trolls; wildturkeys; wppff; zot
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To: Peach

OOPS, I just saw it. ;-)


1,941 posted on 03/30/2005 3:59:22 PM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: the Deejay

For that matter, what do we really know about the Schindlers? And who are the people out there bad mouthing others and utilizing the press to smear others? It's curiously enough, not Micahel Schiavo.


1,942 posted on 03/30/2005 4:01:43 PM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: AmericaUnited
Most of the 'smart people' in WFFPP believe Michael is telling the truth and the Schindlers are the evil, money grabbing liars.

The fruits of this affair is that two prolife conservatives are under attack for not ordering troops to fire on a small town police force enforcing a unfair order, and the MSM is howling with glee with pictures, all while hucksters and two bit hooligans are out in force getting a picture on TV.

The biggest loser in all this is Terri, she is being judicially murdered and the pointless "protest" circus outside her Hospice is hoping for her death. If she is saved, they have to go home and can't be on TV.
1,943 posted on 03/30/2005 4:02:08 PM PST by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: green pastures

I think it is ignorant for anyone to compare the Holocaust to pulling tubes out of a woman who is PVS and has a flat EEG and no cognitive abilities.

You think it's contentious.

I can live with that.

I think if they put my statement in an exam and asked, is the correct answer A ignorant; or B contentious the answer would be overwhelmingly A.


1,944 posted on 03/30/2005 4:02:26 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: lugsoul
I just went to the Terry Schivao thread. Didn't stay long, just long enough to see if there were as many arguments as on here.

For that bb, I was amazed majority were on the same page.

1,945 posted on 03/30/2005 4:02:40 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: unbalanced but fair; Hildy

Ask Hildy. She called this ages ago.


1,946 posted on 03/30/2005 4:04:38 PM PST by annyokie (Laissez les bons temps rouler !)
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To: unbalanced but fair

Thank you for posting that! I've been thinking about just that,today, with the Jesse Jackson circus.


1,947 posted on 03/30/2005 4:05:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dominick

Exactlty!


1,948 posted on 03/30/2005 4:06:19 PM PST by nopardons
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To: the Deejay

I didn't find much rationality. But I did make the mistake of asking Diogenes to post something other than the same ol' Nazi pictures. And I got Chinese execution pics and some Saddam torture stuff.


1,949 posted on 03/30/2005 4:06:30 PM PST by lugsoul (Wild Turkey)
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To: andysandmikesmom
I am not saying that is what is here in the Terri Shiavo film, just saying, relating what I have seen

Thank you for your comment and as you stated .. of all your patients, only once did one track you with their eyes

1,950 posted on 03/30/2005 4:06:34 PM PST by Mo1
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To: annyokie
A few years back, I did research on this and that's when I came to my own conclusions as to how the feud began and is ongoing.

Nothing since, has convinced me to change my mind.

1,951 posted on 03/30/2005 4:06:52 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: lugsoul

Wow! You must have been there
after I was there! I didn't see
anything like that. LOL


1,952 posted on 03/30/2005 4:07:58 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: thoughtomator; Long Cut
Suggested alternate name: "The Good Germans"

lol.

1,953 posted on 03/30/2005 4:08:10 PM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
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To: MKM1960

You're correct. The Schindlers testified under oath they were upset they didn't get any of the malpractice money. Previous to that, they had nothing but praise for MS and were quoted directly in several St. Petersburg newspaper articles. They even encouraged him to date and wanted to meet his girlfriends.


1,954 posted on 03/30/2005 4:08:17 PM PST by Peach (I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: MKM1960


Well, you're daddy is indeed a SMART Southern gentleman!


1,955 posted on 03/30/2005 4:08:40 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: Peach
They even encouraged him to date and wanted to meet his girlfriends.

I saw that in court transcripts, too.

1,956 posted on 03/30/2005 4:10:12 PM PST by the Deejay ( I'LL RESPECT YOUR OPINION....IF YOU'LL RESPECT MINE.....)
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To: beyond the sea

Thank you, I'm relieved to see at least one person got it in the spirit it was intended (1900+ posts in). Apparently to join the "Coalition of the Sane" you have to check your sense of humor at the door.


1,957 posted on 03/30/2005 4:10:33 PM PST by thoughtomator (Order "Judges Gone Wild!" Only $19.95 have your credit card handy!)
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To: unbalanced but fair; MKM1960; Trinity_Tx; Peach; yall
And who are the people out there bad mouthing others and utilizing the press to smear others? It's curiously enough, not Micahel Schiavo.

BUMPING the obvious, but overlooked.

1,958 posted on 03/30/2005 4:11:33 PM PST by onyx (Robert Frost "Good fences make good neighbors." Build the fence, Mr. President and Congress.)
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To: nopardons

I talked about this at work over a month ago when this media circus hit high gear. Needless to say, there were some calling me Hitler and Nazi behind my back! They didn't do it to my face though; I'm the boss. LOL!


1,959 posted on 03/30/2005 4:11:47 PM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: lugsoul

Hm, it's been pulled (so I haven't the slightest idea what it said)

Reason given: Insane (so I can guess)

I believe the reason for the manifesto has been justified and those who keep making contemptuous remarks about it and twisting the slightest exaggerations of posters, whose intent is clear, as a breaking of some sort of sacred bond are only continuing to ruin their own crediblity.

Having said that, I repeat that I believe the atmosphere has cleared a bit on FR overall.


1,960 posted on 03/30/2005 4:12:21 PM PST by cyncooper (I see pod people)
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