We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate."!!:)
Two Decades to an American Culture of Death
Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
Thanks. I'll look it up.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate."!!:)
I WAS NOT AWARE MY HUSBAND DIED IN Beth Israel Medical Center, New York, NY
The National Consensus Project (NCP), comprised of
· American Academy of Hospice and Palliative Medicine (AAHPM)
· Center to Advance Palliative Care (CAPC)
· Hospice and Palliative Nurses Association (HPNA)
· Last Acts Partnership
· National Hospice and Palliative Care Organization (NHPCO),
announces in a press release the publication of Clinical Practice Guidelines for Quality Palliative Care. These guidelines are to be the standard for palliative care services across the country. The guidelines acknowledge the support of
· Beth Israel Medical Center, New York, NY
· City of Hope National Medical Center
· Harvard Medical School Center for Palliative Care
· The Hospice of the Florida Suncoast
· Massachusetts General Hospital
· Hertzberg Palliative Care Institute, Mount Sinai School of Medicine
· National Hospice Work Group
· National Institutes of Health, Warren Grant Magnuson Clinical Center
· New York University, Steinhardt School of Education, Division of Nursing
· Palliative Care Center and Hospice of the North Shore
· San Diego Hospice and Palliative Care
· University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
· Vitas HealthCare
In an effort to define palliative care, the manual provides a diagram similar to the following diagram. The guidelines position palliative care opposite life-saving therapy, as shown here:
Three Florida neurologists viewed 12 of Schiavo's CT scans on March 22 [10] (http://www.miami.edu/ethics/schiavo/CT%20scan.png). After viewing the scans, Dr. Leon Prockop (a professor and former chairman of the neurology department at the University of South Florida's College of Medicine) was quoted by the Sun-Sentinel as saying that Schiavo's scan exhibits the "most severe brain damage as I've ever seen." Dr. Walter Bradley, the chairman of neurology at the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, said that he "doubts there's any activity going on in the higher levels of her brain."
In 2002, a trial was held to determine whether or not any new therapy treatments would help Schiavo restore any cognitive function. A new computed axial tomography scan (CAT scan) was done, and showed severe cerebral atrophy. An EEG showed no measurable brain activity.
It hasn't appeared that way, with so little outrage against the fact that she is being starved to death. 12 days of starvation now and this person who supposedly wants to die is still somehow alive.
However, I've gotten a complete explanation of why starving her like a Jew in Bergen-Belsen is completely above-board and legal.
No. He didn't. Another urban legend.
Terri's money is controlled by the court. Michael's money, $300,000 is all he has had access to. Period.
The Wolfson Report mentions how the money is controlled by the court; MS has NO access to it.
The WOlfson Report also mentions that MS volunteered to relinquish his financial interest in Terri's estate in the event she dies. The Schindlers declined to take him up on that offer. If they had taken him up on the offer, there would have been no motive that they could play to the media and naive.
You really should read the Wolfson report. It's in HTML format now.
I'm looking for answers to some of the very disturbing questions that are still out there. See post 843.
"Yes. The SChindler's doctor, Dr. H., advertises in the National Inquirer. Insurance companies won't work with him. He claims to have a Nobel prize nomination but couldn't produce it for the court.
He claimed he could treat patients like Terri but when asked for the information on ONE single patient he has treated like Terri, he couldn't do it. "
I heard Dr. H., when asked about patients like Terri that he's treated, started talking about a patient with cerebral palsey and all of the wonderful things he was able to do for her. Now, excuse me, but cerebral palsey is not the same problem that Terri has. Talking about dancing around the question. The host on that particular show didn't challenge him, either.
Oh, ok, thanks. The "other side" of FR.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
Thank you for bumping the thread.
Thank you for the EEG reference. :o)
You are, of course, most welcome. :)
I'm sorry all, I will not be able to continue this thread. Orange.
I think you mean he/she hasn't chosen your side.
It shows.
Don't you think that is a "tad-bit" obnoxious, to challenge the moderator of the thread?
I don't think it's going to matter. See the Admin's post above yours.
What? OMG... Please don't tell me.. no... not... not... not... Banana! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
The side that calls fellow FReepers Nazi's, the Death Squad, and sends graphics of the Grim Reaper.
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