Posted on 03/29/2005 8:58:34 AM PST by Long Cut
We, the Witness Protection Program For Freepers, aka the Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane, have through mutual discussion and rigourous thought, determined that:
1. The discussion threads regarding Terri Schiavo (hereafter referred to as "TS") have become too full of innuendo, rumormongering, hyperbole, hysteria, namecalling, paranoia, and general poor behavior to warrant participation.
2. Said threads have degenerated into "echo chambers", wherein the same, common thoughts are continually posted again and again, and the same old disreputable, unconfirmed and/or false urban myths are propagated.
3. Anyone who joins in said theads with alternative viewpoints to the most extreme posts are routinely driven away with slander, accusations, and vile namecalling.
4. No data or evidence contrary to the "prevailing opinions" are accepted, considered, or discussed; and in fact are rejected outright in most instances.
5. That the continued calls for armed insurrection, military or paramilitary involvement, impeachements of politicians and judges, and death threats are embarassing, stupid, shortsighted, doomed to failure, and contrary to most if not all conservative thought prior to this case, as well as damaging in the extreme to FR and the conservative movement as a whole.
6. That such emotional, hyperbolic, and propaganda-driven hysteria is in fact contrary to all conservatives USED to stand for.
7. That the holding up of swastika and other Nazi imagery towards the police and the Bushes, the use of children as political props, and the disruption of the peace at the Woodside Hospice can only reflect badly on conservatives in general, and should be discouraged.
8. That the pursuit of this issue to the exclusion of all others by the GOP has damaged, perhaps beyond repair, the pursuit of other important issues as well as the reputation of the GOP, FR, and conservatism.
The WPPFF is NOT of one mind as to the case of TS or its correct outcome. In fact, wide disagreement exists within our little group. However, we are united in our wish that reason and sanity be respected in the discussion, as well as the rights of all parties involved or participating. We wish to discuss this as adults and intellectuals, as conservatives and as FRiends, not as children screaming past each other on some playground of hysteria. We wish for facts and evidence to be provided, discussed reasonably, and considered fairly.
We reject all accusations of Naziism, "death cultism", or other slander as methods of debate. We reject the practice of "spamming" multiple threads, of posting unending vanities, and the posting of propaganda and calls for violence. We reject, in fact, all unseemly and childish behavior which has come to characterize this case on FR.
We DO invite others to come and reasonably discuss the issue. We have no problem with FReepers who wish to debate in a rational and fair manner, and with due respect for their fellow FReepers. We have NO problem with those whose views are formed by religion; however we reject "preaching" or "being beaten with a Bible" as legitemite debate tactics. Not all of us are Believers, and such tactics only cheapen the source.
If a FReeper finds this an acceptable meansd to discuss this and other issues, they are welcome to join in and participate. Those who find pleasure in attacks, flame-baiting, slander, stalking, and personal atacks will be ignored, and their egos will go unfed.
We assume this thread to be a zone of sanity in an overheated atmosphere. Thus, a general amnesty is in effect. If posters conduct themselves within the guidlines above, we will be happy to discuss and debate with you. If a poster wishes to apologize for past slips of the tongue, or for possible "over-the-top" statements to another, it will be graciously accepted, and your company welcome.
Please bring a sense of humor; we feel that too many have been taking themselves too seriously lately.
Let the discussion begin!
Signed,
The WPPFF, aka The Wild Turkeys, aka the Coalition of the Sane.
This case has been going on for 15 years. People who have not testified under oath and been subject to cross examination have NO credibility.
In 2002, the Schindlers were permitted to call two doctors to represent their side. MS had 2 doctors and the court appointed one.
The Schindlers chose two alternative medicine doctors. If you would like more information on just how pathetic their standing in the medical community is, I'll be happy to provide the links and documentation.
Further, the Schindlers were given every latitude with regard to call witnesses...nurses, therapists, etc. They did not call any of those supposed people on the affidavit list circulating the internet with the exception of Carla or Carly. You have to ask yourself if in 2002, 12 years after Terri's cardiac arrest, if she was doing so well, the Schindlers didn't notice. Hello!!!
They testified under oath they knew she was PVS. WHich is the opposite of what they say on television, of course.
Oh, and another freeper has found through a nursing registry that a couple of those supposed "nurses" aren't really nurses at all.
I've read the bone scan and your analysis is incorrect.
First point: The bone scan also shows compression fractures in both ankles, both knees, and in the neck, in addition to the rib and lumbar fractures.
Second point: The rib fractures are on the part of the ribs that can be injured during CPR.
Third point: No CPR was administered.
http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codeblueblog/2005/03/csi_medblogs_co_1.html
With regards to low potassium, I have heard that this condition can be caused by insulin, which reinforces the affidavit by the nurse who claimed Michael had, on five separate occasions, injected his wife with insulin during closed-door visits.
Do you have the reference for the flat EEG?
Gosh, you'd think the people in that article would mention those little miracles to her parents who visited all the time and the parents would have them testify in court.
See, there's the problem. The judge simply chose to hear only the testimony of those favorable to the husband's case. Despite a notarized affidavit from the nurse, her testimony was not taken.
LOL!
I gave myself 24 hours. I'm good to go. I really want to let people vent to us, good, bad or ugly. It's not often you get one moderator dedicated to one thread. This in an important issue, worth our time.
Ply him with a bag of oranges.
Now freepers are accusing the Bishop of being on the take in the Terri matter?????
Oh. My. Goodness.
You're right, I am. If you recall, the answer to life, the universe and everything was 42 - but nobody remembered the question to the answer. :)
Promise me it's a he and I will.
how can the judge force the attorneys to put the right witnesses on the stand
OMG! I am dying here.
You heard the condition can be caused by insulin. Oh, well. That's it then. It must be so.
Why didn't these nurses testify in 2002? Any idea?
I didn't recall, but I should have. Sheesh. I've got "Hitchhiker's guide to the Universe" on VHS tape. Might have to dig it out of whatever box it's in.
Not really. Calling themselves the "Coalition of the Sane" is an open invitation to a flame war. I thought I was just pointing that out.
I told you where to look for it in a previous post, did I not?
I have some posts saved to my freepmail and am not going to look through all of Trinity's posts for that information. But it's been posted here, I do believe and she will be happy to help you if you ping her, I'm sure.
You can't bribe me with popcorn. Sorry, I can't be bought.
If it was only that...he was accused of everything from pedophilia to being an agent of Satan.
Did you not realize that in 2002 the Schindlers were given every latitude to call whomever they wished? Including these nurses? The judge didn't rule they couldn't testify. The Schindlers never ASKED them to testify.
You are being played.
Part - no, a LOT - of the problem is the utter incompetence of the Schindlers' attorneys.
This is another issue I have with the process - if you can afford a much better lawyer than the other party, you can buy the verdict you want. Financed by $400k+ from Terri's care fund, Michael bought an order of starvation.
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