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To: SigPro2340

Get a grip, dude...I know what addiction is like. I was a tobacco addict for 19 yrs! Going w/o nicotine had terrible effects on me b4 I finished the long process of kicking the habit--while going w/o weed doesn't bother me. You are comparing apples to oranges. Pray all you want to...if that's how you choose to waste your time, then so be it.


91 posted on 03/04/2005 11:49:19 PM PST by libertyman (It's time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!!!)
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To: libertyman
You are far more addicted to pot than tobacco. You got over the tobacco addiction it seems, however you can't get over the pot one. You'll keep doing pot, the definition of substance abuse behavior.
93 posted on 03/04/2005 11:50:28 PM PST by SigPro2340
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"Religion is a primitive form of philosophy, [the] attempt to offer a comprehensive view of reality." (The Objectivist Feb 1966)

"Everyone has the right to make his own decision/s, but none has the right to force his decision on others."
('The Virtue of Selfishness', Chapter 12)

"The [U.S.] Constitution is a limitation on the government, not on private individuals ... it does not prescribe the conduct of private individuals, only the conduct of the government ... it is not a charter for government power, but a charter of the citizen's protection against the government."

"A rational man is guided by his thinking – by a process of Reason – not by his feelings and desires."

"If I were to speak your kind of language, I would say that man's only moral commandment is: Thou shalt think. But a 'moral commandment' is a contradiction in terms. The moral is the chosen, not the forced; the understood, not the obeyed. The moral is the rational, and reason accepts no commandments."

"To know one's own desires, their meaning and their costs requires the highest human virtue: Rationality."

"The man who lets a leader prescribe his course is a wreck being towed to the scrap heap."

"Why do they always teach us that it's easy and evil to do what we want and that we need discipline to restrain ourselves? It's the hardest thing in the world--to do what we want. And it takes the greatest kind of courage. I mean, what we really want."



All above quotes attributed to Ayn Rand.

I agree with her on just about everything, except her concept of religeon. After reading a large portion of this thread, I have a much clearer concept of what her philosophy was addressing.

I pose the following questions to all of the moralists on these threads: What good can come from legislating morals? If God has given the gift of a free will to man, and the government takes that gift away, is man truly free to follow a moral path? If we are not free to make moral choices, then isn't the reward of heaven an unearned reward?

Why would the religeous applaud the government use of guns to force individuals to make choices that the religeous deems moral? Who gets to define morality?


169 posted on 03/07/2005 8:24:48 AM PST by CSM (Currently accepting applications for the position of stay at home mom.)
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