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To: NRA2BFree
"This crap will end when OUR government REALLY gets serious about protecting Americans"

Our government is serious about protecting Americans.

Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them.

23 posted on 02/28/2005 3:21:03 PM PST by bayourod (Unless we get over 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2008, President Hillary will take all your guns away.)
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To: bayourod
No, we just want the immigration laws already on the books enforced. It's that too much to ask?

Apparently, you're in favor of selective enforcement of the law or worse yet outright lawbreaking.

What are you, some kind of open border libertarian?

L

25 posted on 02/28/2005 3:24:53 PM PST by Lurker ("We're all sinners, but jerks revel in their sins. " P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: bayourod
Illegals crossing our borders is a MAJOR security threat. With the millions of them crossing our borders, how hard could it be for a few Arabic types to come across with them? Ya could drop a Arabic into a group of Mexicans, and most could not tell the difference unless they really looked good, and some could not even then.
Considering these also transport tons of cocaine and marijuana, how hard could it possibly be for one to carry five pounds of Anthrax spores?

And do not try to feed me that line about how "none of the 9/11 hijackers came from Mexico". Waiting until AFTER it happens to act is suicidal. As porous as the border is right now.. terrorists would have NO PROBLEM crossing the south border. As it gets tougher to come in other ways.. do not kid yourself in thinking that option will never occur to them.

28 posted on 02/28/2005 3:29:11 PM PST by WindOracle
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To: bayourod
The potential is much more dangerous than a myopic 'we are keeping them from picking broccoli'.

The point is: Without controls, we have no idea who are coming across the borders, but we do know they are coming across by the thousands.


One Reporter's Opinion – Importing Disease
  Posted by ETERNAL WARMING
On News/Activism 02/25/2005 1:09:09 AM CST · 10 replies · 172+ views


NewsMax ^ | Feb 25, 2005 | George Putnam
One Reporter's Opinion – Importing Disease George Putnam Friday, Feb 25, 2005 It is this reporter's opinion that when the president and first lady return from the fence-mending trip to Europe, he and the 'Ayatollah in the White House,' Karl Rove, need to lock themselves in the Oval Office and review the findings of the February 17, 2005 testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee: Three of the nation's highest-ranking Homeland Security officials issued a chilling warning that al-Qaida will exploit our lax border enforcement to infiltrate terrorists and weaponry into the United States. CIA Director Porter Goss, FBI Director Robert...


A Ticking Time Bomb: Diseases that Cross American Borders
  Posted by CHARLITE
On News/Activism 12/15/2004 2:42:44 PM CST · 38 replies · 883+ views


RUTHERFORD INSTITUTE.COM ^ | DECEMBER 13, 2004 | JOHN W. WHITEHEAD
As an American, I have always been inspired by the fact that my country welcomes those who seek refuge. And as long as our government officials maintain our borders and ensure that those coming from other countries are screened in order to protect those who legally live here, the concept of welcoming immigrants is a noble one. However, something has gone awry. Indeed, illegal immigration into the U.S. has become an immense problem and a clear and present danger. Documented illegal immigration has more than doubled in the last decade. It has grown, by conservative counts, from 3.5 million in...



Disease, unwanted import
  Posted by ovrtaxt
On News/Activism 02/13/2005 4:14:48 AM CST · 20 replies · 501+ views


washington times ^ | February 13, 2005 | Joyce Howard Price
Contagious diseases are entering the United States because of immigrants, illegal aliens, refugees and travelers, and World Health Organization officials say the worst could be yet to come. In addition to a list of imported diseases that includes tuberculosis, sickle cell anemia, hepatitis B, measles and the potentially deadly parasitic disease Chagas, officials fear what could happen if the avian flu, which is flourishing among poultry in Southeast Asia, mutates so that it is capable of human-to-human transmission through casual contact

32 posted on 02/28/2005 3:37:09 PM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: bayourod
Our government is serious about protecting Americans.

I hadn't noticed.

Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them.

And when they're not washing dishes and collecting garbage...

Jesus J. Robles-Sanchez, an illegal immigrant from Mexico, was convicted by a Jefferson County jury last week of second-degree assault and driving without a license for a crash in May that injured a woman in Herculaneum.

Assistant Prosecutor Steve Jerrell said Robles-Sanchez was driving drunk on Commercial Boulevard at Riverview Drive in Herculaneum on May 7, when his SUV struck the rear of a car driven by Angela Biehle as she waited to turn left onto Riverview Drive.

34 posted on 02/28/2005 3:46:01 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: bayourod
"Our government is serious about protecting Americans.

Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them."

Please contact a neurologist....

Contact a detox center while you're at it.

Between the two of them, you may at last be helped with your delusions.

38 posted on 02/28/2005 3:52:19 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: bayourod

"Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them."

Are we to assume that you are so naive as to believe the only jobs that are being taken are dishwashers and garbage collectors? The illegal immigrant issue extends into many more industries.

What about the crime rate associated with illegals? What percentage of the prison population in California is illegal immigrants? Arizona? New Mexico?

There are more issues involved in this topic than just low paying jobs.




47 posted on 02/28/2005 4:15:16 PM PST by Riddick (Open your eyes and see the truth, it shall set you free!)
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To: bayourod
"Our government is serious about protecting Americans."

Despite an influx of new technology, such as underground sensors and cameras that pan the desert, agents catch only about one-third of the estimated 3 million people who cross the border illegally every year.

"Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them."

In 2003, the Border Patrol arrested 39,215 so-called "OTMs," or other-than-Mexicans, along the Southwest border. In 2004, the number jumped to 65,814. ......Those figures worry intelligence and Homeland Security officials, who say al-Qaeda leaders want to smuggle operatives and weapons of mass destruction across the nation's porous land borders.

Dishwashers and garbage collectors, eh?

62 posted on 02/28/2005 5:26:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: bayourod; TexasCowboy; Marine Inspector; TomGuy; WindOracle; DumpsterDiver; F16Fighter; Riddick; ...
"Unfortunately some people want resources being used to protect Americans to be diverted to reducing the number of illegal dishwashers and garbage collectors they fear are taking all the good jobs away from them."



I defer you all to a column by Ben MacIntyre, and Professor Harry G. Frankfurt; moral philosopher at Princeton:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1351575/posts


“The essence of bullshit is getting away with it, with persuading listeners or readers of a sincerity that is, by definition, phony. The bullshit artist simply does not care about truth: “He pays no attention to it at all."

“By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of truth than lies are.” ~ Harry G. Frankfurt, moral philosopher and professor emeritus at Princeton University: 'On Bullshit' (Princeton University Press)

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79 posted on 02/28/2005 11:43:53 PM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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