Posted on 02/20/2005 8:33:52 AM PST by DJ Taylor
So John F. Kerry has finally agreed to sign an SF-180 and release his military record. Well, don’t hold your breath, because there is no way he will ever open up that bag of worms, and I don’t think it has anything to do with a Dishonorable Discharge from the Navy as some believe.
If Kerry had been arrested, charged with consorting with the enemy, court-martialed, and given a Dishonorable Discharge during the Nixon administration, he would have worn it as a badge of courage just as he did his phony Purple Hearts and Silver Star. The court-martial would have received more publicity than the OJ trial and he would have come out of it an even bigger hero with the liberal left than he is now.
So, in light of all the crimes that we know he committed, how is it that he was never court-martialed? Just for the sake of conjecture, let’s say maybe he was arrested, charged, court-martialed, and dishonorably discharged, but the proceedings were so embarrassing to him that he would never want the details to be made public. As I have just stated, being found guilty of consorting with the enemy would not be the reason, so what could it be?
It has been made public that Kerry was under very close surveillance by law enforcement agencies and possibly the CIA for at least two years. (Yes, the CIA could target U.S. citizens before Jimmy Carter put a stop to it.) If a person with “bad habits” is under close surveillance for any length of time, their bad habits will be found out and documented. If Kerry was arrested, charged with treason, it was made clear to him that the evidence of his “bad habit” would come to light during his trial, and he was offered the opportunity to receive leniency if he cooperated, I think a coward like Kerry would have taken the bait.
If Kerry “flipped,” as they say in the law enforcement community, became an informant (rat, snitch, etc etc), informed on his leftist liberal associates in order to receive leniency, and this information was released to the public, he would be finished both politically and socially.
Kerry obviously fears the release of his military record, and it could not possibly have anything to do with his treasonous activity with communist organizations and governments, so his fear must be based on something else. The only logical explanation as to why Kerry, a documented traitor, was never publicly court-martialed is that a Special Court-Martial was privately convened. At this court-martial, Kerry was found guilty of a lesser charge, probably “Conduct Unbecoming of an Officer,” given a less than honorable discharge, his phony medals were revoked, he cooperated with government prosecutors, and the record of proceedings was never released. This would explain Kerry’s late and mysterious issue of an Honorable Discharge and the reissue of his phony medals during the Carter administration.
It’s pure conjecture on my part, but if Kerry ever signs an SF-180, not only will his less than honorable discharge come to light, but his possible status as a CIA or FBI informant, and, of course, his “bad habit.” I leave it to your imagination to determine what kind of bad habit could possibly embarrass a liberal Democrat like John F. Kerry, but if that bit of information is ever released, I guarantee you it will be enough to gag a maggot.
Prove me wrong, John boy. Sign the SF-180 and release your full military record before one of us actually hypothesizes what you are so afraid of.
traitor ping.
keep it up!
Tainted media [Kerry's 'honorable' discharge?]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345874/posts
"Some of the public have begun to wake up but more need to do so.
Many in the media also need to wake up to what they are doing, or failing to do,
when their politics taints their work."
TownHall.com ^ | February 18, 2005 | Thomas Sowell
For those who say the GOP can't acknowledge Swift Boat Vets,
they are wrong.
Karl Rove also exposed the false testimony by Hanoi Kerry in 1971
Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)
"...Rove recalled that his uncle had done several tours of duty in Vietnam.
I've never been able to think of Colonel Verhi as somebody who would have
'raped and pillaged in a manner reminiscent of Genghis Khan,'"
a reference to Kerry's 1971 Senate testimony where he accused Vietnam veterans
of committing widespread atrocities."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts
Viet Nam Vet Ollie North nailed Hanoi Kerry on his false 1971 testimony.
"Kerry testified under oath before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1971 that Americans in Vietnam had "raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war."
Set aside the horrific and defamatory nature of these accusations and ask this: Did he witness these atrocities? Did he try to stop them? If not, was he held accountable for dereliction of duty? If he knows the perpetrators, did he ever see that they were brought to justice? If not, why?"
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ollienorth/on20040220.shtml
And FR's own Interesting Times nailed Hanoi Kerry for his lies in 1971
AFFIDAVIT OF STEVEN J. PITKIN combat veteran of the Vietnam War
(Kerry pressured him to give false Winter Soldier testimony)
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=PitkinAff
Pitkin Affidavit
AFFIDAVIT OF STEVEN J. PITKIN
STATE OF FLORIDA
COUNTY OF PALM BEACH
Before me, the undersigned authority, personally appeared Steven J. Pitkin, known, to me to be the person whose name is subscribed to this instrument, who, after first being duly sworn by me, upon oath stated:
1. My name is Steven J. Pitkin. I am over the age of twenty-one years, and I am fully competent and able to make this affidavit. I am able to swear, as I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge.
2. I am a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, having served with the Ninth Division of the U.S. Army beginning 25 May 1969. A mortar explosion wounded me, my wounds gradually became infected, and I was treated in an Army hospital in Okinawa. I contracted hepatitis C from blood transfusions I received during that time. I left Vietnam on 28 August 1969 and was honorably discharged from the Army on 9 September 1970.
3. Medals received for my Army service include: Combat Infantry Badge, Army Commendation Medal, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, Vietnam Campaign Medal, RVN Cross of Gallantry, Air Medal, Purple Heart.
4. During my service in Vietnam, I neither witnessed nor participated in any American war crimes or atrocities against civilians, nor was I ever aware of any such actions. I did witness the results of Vietcong atrocities against Vietnamese civilians, including the murder of tribal leaders.
5. Upon my return to the United States I encountered anti-war protestors who, at various times, threw feces, spit, and screamed obscenities.
6. I joined Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW), at Catonsville Community College in Baltimore in 1970.
7. In January of 1971, I rode in a van with John Kerry, a national leader of the VVAW, and others from Washington D.C. to Detroit to attend the Winter Soldier Investigation, a conference intended to publicize alleged American war crimes in Vietnam. Having no knowledge of such war crimes, I did not intend to speak at the event.
8. During the Winter Soldier Investigation, John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. One event leader strongly implied that I would not be provided transportation back to my home in Baltimore, Maryland, if I failed to comply. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue.
9. In April 1971, I attended a VVAW protest in Washington D.C. known as “Dewey Canyon III.” During this event I was present when protestors, including John Kerry, threw medals and ribbons over a fence outside the U.S. Capitol. I witnessed a man holding a bag of ribbons and medals and handing them out to other protestors. I saw that many of the ribbons and medals were not those that would be received by veterans of combat in Vietnam.
10. During the “Dewey Canyon III” protest, others and I confronted protestors who were wearing or carrying Vietcong flags.
11. After the “Dewey Canyon III” protest, I was no longer invited to meetings of the VVAW in Baltimore, and ended my association with the organization.
12. I joined the 5/20th Special Forces Group of the Maryland National Guard in 1974, was graduated from paratrooper “jump school” with honors in 1976, joined the Coast Guard in 1978 and served there until my retirement in May 1997.
(signed) Steven J. Pitkin
Further affiant saith not.
Subscribed and sworn to before me this 15th Day of September, 2004.
Jonathan Feldman
Commission # DD235268
My commission expires July 28, 2007
Now can anyone name 1 so called MAIN Stream Right Wing Media
personality
(we know Russert on tv and Imus on radio from the Left have)
that has asked,
in 2005,
these questions?
"Asked Kerry when he will sign Form 180.
(Even though President Bush signed his Form 180)
Or why Kerry is still in the US Senate.
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
Or when Kerry will set the record straight
on his false testimony in April 71"
BUT he's still attacking President Bush in '05
Kerry Trashes Bush in Baghdad Jan '05
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315333/posts
Kerry: Bush Still Hiding His Guard Records Feb '05
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1341323/posts
Release your records you TRAITOR
bump
That is how these things were handled after Nam, and Carter covered it all up with his amnesty thing.
All the bits and pieces of evidence we have seems to indicate a discharge that was "less than honorable" to reflect conduct that was unbecoming, but not treason.(as it should have)
Kerry can never release these records. He will do his best to bury them or destroy them first. As he has been doing quietly, over the years.
bump!
Thanks for the ping!
BTTT!!!!!
I like the way you think. If this is on the right track, it explains a lot.
This does not only make Kerry a traitor, but a "TRAITOR'S TRAITOR" as well. He betrayed his country, and then to save his own a$$ he betrayed the other traitors!
Kerry can't sign those forms because he would lose what little respect he has in the eyes of those anti-American low lifes.
I just hope I live long enough after he is gone for his records to be released. I want the satisfaction of knowing that this guy is officially DONE!!!!
"8. During the Winter Soldier Investigation, John Kerry and other leaders of that event pressured me to testify about American war crimes, despite my repeated statements that I could not honestly do so. One event leader strongly implied that I would not be provided transportation back to my home in Baltimore, Maryland, if I failed to comply. Kerry and other leaders of the event instructed me to publicly state that I had witnessed incidents of rape, brutality, atrocities and racism, knowing that such statements would necessarily be untrue."
FRAUD...TRAITOR...CON MAN...COWARD...GOON !!!!
Very interesting theory.....I'll be watching to see how it develops.
I read an article years ago that there were those in the Nixon administration who wanted to vigorously pursue Jane Fonda with treason charges.
It was the opinion of others in the administration that it was not wise with the current "mood" of the country at the time. The thinking was that such charges would inflame the left-wing, anti-USA zealots to revolution. That argument won and she walked.
I sure do wish that Tonk would shorten his nick. :-)
That story sounds plausible if you lived back in those times and I did.
This same logic may have been applied to sKerry along with the idea that it would be too embarrassing to the gov't and Navy if charges were brought against a "Nam vet" with the current "mood."
"It was the opinion of others in the administration that it was not wise with the current "mood" of the country at the time."
Yes, this is true, but it does not explain why Kerry is so afraid of releasing his military record.
"This could explain kerrys booney hat that was given to him by the CIA"
You forgot to mark this as sarcasm.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.